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(08-02-2016, 02:00 PM)MidTowner Wrote: [ -> ]It's actually a neat reason (well, I think it's neat, anyway).

From this Industry Canada page:

Quote:International air relations are governed largely by bilateral air agreements, which have the status of treaties and which, for the most part, incorporate national designation clauses that state only air carriers that are "substantially owned and controlled" by their government or home country nationals may be designated to operate air services under these agreements. There is no single internationally agreed upon definition for the concepts of "substantial ownership and effective control," and contracting states have discretion in choosing how to interpret it...

...Internationally, some states have eased restrictions to allow up to 49 percent foreign ownership of their carriers. China and India are such examples. In addition, some also permit 100-percent foreign ownership for carriers offering domestic services only, such as Australia and New Zealand (subject to a national interest test) and the European Union (internal market).

The issue of ownership goes back to the privatization and public sale of Air Canada in 1988. The real issues are where the airlines would fly if they were owned by say American Airlines or another international carrier.  As a subsidized carrier then known as Trans Canada Airlines, routes were established based on the needs of the country. There were great concerns that a foreign owned carrier would not  be interested in serving places like Edmonton, Winnipeg, Quebec City or any city in the Atlantic region. Lastly places like Regina or Saskatoon or Iqaluit would likely only have very limited passenger service if any.

The big issue from an economic point of view was what is referred to as passenger capitation. Every flight and every ticket price was approved by Transport Canada and thus there was a "national carrier".

If a free market situation including ownership were allowed there was great fear that the much larger U.S. airlines would fly from (example) NYC  to Toronto and on to Vancouver or Japan Or to Europe. This would have caused Air Canada and Pacific Western to be priced out of their own markets mostl likely disappearing entirely. No foreign carrier can  pick up passengers in Canada and fly them to another canadian airport.
(08-03-2016, 09:17 PM)MacBerry Wrote: [ -> ]If a free market situation including ownership were allowed there was great fear that the much larger U.S. airlines would fly from (example) NYC  to Toronto and on to Vancouver or Japan Or to Europe. This would have caused Air Canada and Pacific Western to be priced out of their own markets mostl likely disappearing entirely. No foreign carrier can  pick up passengers in Canada and fly them to another canadian airport.

That's correct, the cabotage rules prevent foreign airlines from flying domestic routes, for better or for worse. 

But those cabotage rules don't actually prevent the NYC-Toronto-Tokyo that you propose, for example -- a routing that actually brings in a fair number of passengers for Air Canada currently.  But in generals airlines will prefer to fly direct routes to maximize the traffic from their home markets, and to minimize costs (fuel and landing fees).

Whether allowing cabotage would render AC and WS uncompetitive -- or whether foreign airlines would even want to fly domestic routes in Canada -- is something that we really don't know.  Within Europe, this is allowed, but in practice it's still quite uncommon: Germany is served primarily by German airlines, France by French ones and so one, and the cabotage rights are primarily used by a handful of low-cost carriers such as RyanAir.
saw this on YKF's twitter feed, they'll be in the Doors Open 2016 - September 17, 2016 (Saturday)
http://www.doorsopenontario.on.ca/Events...egion.aspx

Quote:Region of Waterloo International Airport Operations Centre
www.waterlooairport.ca
CONTACT INFO ARCHITECTURE DATES/HOURS OPEN
75 New Germany Lane
Breslau , Ontario
Year built: 2011
Architect: Peter McMillan
Building type: Transportation, Green building
Saturday: 10 a.m. to 5 p.m.

The Region of Waterloo International Airport Operations Centre was built to LEED Silver standards and features environmentally sustainable technologies. Maintenance, fleet, fire and rescue services operate out of this facility, while providing ample storage for specialized airport vehicles and equipment. Visitors will learn about firefighting and maintenance equipment and have a chance to speak with the people who operate them.
nobody mentioned this?

https://twitter.com/FlyYKF
Grab your walking shoes & plan your route before you get here. @FlyYKF
Aviation Fun Day until 4pm today

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Today's Globe and Mail suggests that we may see shuttle flights to YTZ by next year. The (faint?) hopes of Canada Jetlines are also noted.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on...e31550631/
(08-29-2016, 09:33 AM)panamaniac Wrote: [ -> ]Today's Globe and Mail suggests that we may see shuttle flights to YTZ by next year.

Toronto Island (Billy Bishop) for those who haven't memorized all the TLAs.
NextJet (it's still alive, it seems) is planning to offer flights to Billy Bishop soon.  I checked their flights to Montreal but there are no flights on the days I wanted to fly.  

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(08-29-2016, 10:43 AM)kps Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-29-2016, 09:33 AM)panamaniac Wrote: [ -> ]Today's Globe and Mail suggests that we may see shuttle flights to YTZ by next year.

Toronto Island (Billy Bishop) for those who haven't memorized all the TLAs.

Three Letter Acronym, for all those who haven't memorized all the TLAs.
(08-29-2016, 09:33 AM)panamaniac Wrote: [ -> ]Today's Globe and Mail suggests that we may see shuttle flights to YTZ by next year.  The (faint?) hopes of Canada Jetlines are also noted.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on...e31550631/

Good to see it only took the Record 3 days to catch up to local news...
http://www.therecord.com/news-story/6845...t-service/

The view of RoWIA tonight...

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Coke
No surprise, but NextJet has discontinued operation at YKF.

http://www.therecord.com/news-story/6886...d-flights/
It's not just Kitchener ... it looks like NextJet has stopped flying altogether:
http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/2...gh-airport
I really like flying out of YKF it is my preferred option, just is disappointing to see the options so limited.
NextJet departs from regional airport after failed flights
http://www.therecord.com/news-story/6886...d-flights/

Sucks, everyone leaving YKF - AA next month
(09-30-2016, 10:28 AM)jerryhung Wrote: [ -> ]NextJet departs from regional airport after failed flights
http://www.therecord.com/news-story/6886...d-flights/

Sucks, everyone leaving YKF - AA next month

"Failed flights" makes the assumption that NextJet actually started flying out of YKF.  Can't run a successful airline if you never fly....

Coke
(09-30-2016, 06:49 PM)Coke6pk Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-30-2016, 10:28 AM)jerryhung Wrote: [ -> ]NextJet departs from regional airport after failed flights
http://www.therecord.com/news-story/6886...d-flights/

Sucks, everyone leaving YKF - AA next month

"Failed flights" makes the assumption that NextJet actually started flying out of YKF.  Can't run a successful airline if you never fly....

Coke

Nextjet's charter model didn't work.  Scheduled flights may have been successful but not via Peterborough.   Peterborough?