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September Occupancy Thread of Shame - Markster - 08-31-2017

Here we can talk about (and shame) all the projects that fail to open for September occupancy.

And here we present the


Missed September Occupancy List Of Shame

2017

TheHub - Accommod8u/KW4Rent/Prica Group (link)

2016

Icon 330 - Rise Real Estate (link)
K2 (link)

2015

Sage 2 - IN8 Developments (link)

2014

One Columbia - Schembri (link)



RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - Markster - 08-31-2017

The Hub has announced that 3 of their towers will not meed September occupancy.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/thehub-130-columbia-accommod8u-not-ready-for-move-in-waterloo-1.4270320?cmp=rss

Several towers however, will have occupancy, so it's at least not as bad as the One Columbia debacle.


RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - jwilliamson - 09-01-2017

Sage 2 was delayed in 2015. Also, the Record has a story about 1 Columbia move in delays dated September 2014: https://www.therecord.com/news-story/4833898-highrise-construction-delay-leaves-students-in-search-of-housing/

I'm not sure if they have mis-dated it, it if that makes 4 consecutive years of move in delays.


RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - JoeKW - 09-01-2017

The universities should really include some information warning new students about this phenomenon.


RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - Watdot - 09-01-2017

The universities have nothing to do with these private sector projects. There's also risks for students who choose to commute. What universities "should do" gets to be ridiculous. Individuals need to do their own research and take responsibility for their own decisions... education.


RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - Viewfromthe42 - 09-01-2017

Students all had a choice. UW (and WLU?) have a first year guarantee, so anyone wanting to be in residence had that option. Anyone outside of first year probably had a chance to hear about how every year, the new buildings don't get built on time by developers. They want the newest building, it comes with risks, unfortunately.


RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - urbd - 09-01-2017

This phenomenon happens in the development industry as a whole. There's no single (large) construction project that meets its original occupancy date - ever.


RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - Markster - 09-01-2017

For first years, the safe bet is always residence.

I would expect these developments to catch 2nd year students more often, and it's entirely likely that they would have missed the news about these kinds of developments getting delayed. The news of delays always hits in September, and when you're a frosh, you have way too much going on in your first September.

(09-01-2017, 07:27 AM)jwilliamson Wrote: Sage 2 was delayed in 2015. Also, the Record has a story about 1 Columbia move in delays dated September 2014: https://www.therecord.com/news-story/4833898-highrise-construction-delay-leaves-students-in-search-of-housing/

I'm not sure if they have mis-dated it, it if that makes 4 consecutive years of move in delays.

Thanks. I've updated the list.


RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - Spokes - 09-01-2017

(09-01-2017, 08:39 AM)JoeKW Wrote: The universities should really include some information warning new students about this phenomenon.

This is not new.  Any student who rents a unit that is slated to be completed on Sept 1 should expect this,


RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - timc - 09-01-2017

Or, apparently "guaranteed" August move-in as well.


RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - Markster - 09-01-2017

(09-01-2017, 01:54 PM)Spokes Wrote: This is not new.  Any student who rents a unit that is slated to be completed on Sept 1 should expect this,

Universities educate their students about many perils of adult life. I don't see why this couldn't be occasionally included.


RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - NotStan - 09-01-2017

(09-01-2017, 02:11 PM)Markster Wrote:
(09-01-2017, 01:54 PM)Spokes Wrote: This is not new.  Any student who rents a unit that is slated to be completed on Sept 1 should expect this,

Universities educate their students about many perils of adult life. I don't see why this couldn't be occasionally included.
Apparently they do.  The last question in the FAQ is about new buildings not completed on time.

https://uwaterloo.ca/off-campus-housing/students/tenant-rights


RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - Pheidippides - 09-04-2017

The city also has updates available:
http://www.waterloo.ca/en/living/Multi-unit-Construction.asp


RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - The85 - 09-04-2017

(09-01-2017, 10:10 AM)urbd Wrote: This phenomenon happens in the development industry as a whole. There's no single (large) construction project that meets its original occupancy date - ever.

One of the developers in the area who claims to "never miss a closing date" is Fusion Homes, which includes their large Metalworks project in Guelph. As far as I know this holds true. Trade-off is though is risking a 11th hour rush job to meet this committment or having several incomplete items (while meeting minimum occupancy requirements under the Building Code) at occupancy. 

Love this idea for a thread by the way. I saw a story on CTV that there were a few incomplete Sage developments this year by IN8. Anyone know more info on this?

I've also updated the list to include the developer of The Hub.


RE: September Occupancy Thread of Shame - NotStan - 09-04-2017

Does this thread mean we're going to have a ION Readiness Thread of Shame?