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RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - GtwoK - 06-19-2018

(06-18-2018, 10:50 PM)KevinL Wrote: Smack in the middle of that is a hydro pylon, and the transition bunker where the buried lines come up to meet it. That could be tricky to route around.

I mean.... wouldn't they just bury it, as they did the previous pylons?


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - TMKM94 - 06-19-2018

I'm surprised Walmart will remain as is since it hasn't changed much since it opened. I thought there was rumors that a new Walmart was going to be built in front of the current location? I really like the creativeness of the proposal and I hope it gets built.


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - KevinL - 06-19-2018

(06-19-2018, 03:14 AM)GtwoK Wrote:
(06-18-2018, 10:50 PM)KevinL Wrote: Smack in the middle of that is a hydro pylon, and the transition bunker where the buried lines come up to meet it. That could be tricky to route around.

I mean.... wouldn't they just bury it, as they did the previous pylons?

I suppose they could, it seems like quite the duplicated effort.


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - timc - 06-19-2018

I like it. That lot in front of Wal-Mart is awful to look at, and I think it will look much nicer filled in this way.

It's a bit fanciful to imagine a tree-lined, pedestrian-friendly look for Fairway Road, but maybe it could work?


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - danbrotherston - 06-19-2018

(06-19-2018, 11:04 AM)timc Wrote: I like it. That lot in front of Wal-Mart is awful to look at, and I think it will look much nicer filled in this way.

It's a bit fanciful to imagine a tree-lined, pedestrian-friendly look for Fairway Road, but maybe it could work?

Not impossible, but it would take a lot more changes than what's planned.  More, it's unlikely to actually see that change right next to the highway interchange.


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - Markster - 06-19-2018

Here's the full site plan from the pdf.

They've chosen to redevelop the most conveniently square-shaped plots of land. And that corner parking lot is usually pretty vacant, so it won't impact mall patrons. I agree that any kind of street presence would be better served to the west, but with the existing building and the hydro ROW in the way, it would leave them working on triangular plots.

Having recently walked from the bus mall to the Holiday Inn on the other side of the highway, I won't object to having a building casting some shade on me. There are more pedestrians here than you might think.

The loss of the Sears Brutalism is unfortunate. It's clear that it's just a straight up recladding, so it's all for aesthetics. I do understand that it's hard business being a mall these days, and you need to keep fresh to stay in it.

   


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - GtwoK - 06-19-2018

Maybe I'm just imagining things, but do those 4 residential towers have an unusually small footprint? Square footage wise, they look barely bigger than a single unit inside the mall!


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - Section ThirtyOne - 06-19-2018

They could really stand to run a bulldozer through the Walmart while they're at it and rebuild. That portion of the mall is probably the most dated and the biggest eyesore.


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - timc - 06-19-2018

(06-19-2018, 11:57 AM)Markster Wrote: Having recently walked from the bus mall to the Holiday Inn on the other side of the highway, I won't object to having a building casting some shade on me.  There are more pedestrians here than you might think.

Unless I'm mistaken, the shade will be on the other side of the building.


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - KevinL - 06-19-2018

(06-19-2018, 12:23 PM)Section ThirtyOne Wrote: They could really stand to run a bulldozer through the Walmart while they're at it and rebuild. That portion of the mall is probably the most dated and the biggest eyesore.

I heard that apparently Walmart fully owns its unit, separate from the mall. It seems they have little incentive to apply improvements.


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - ijmorlan - 06-19-2018

(06-19-2018, 04:41 PM)KevinL Wrote:
(06-19-2018, 12:23 PM)Section ThirtyOne Wrote: They could really stand to run a bulldozer through the Walmart while they're at it and rebuild. That portion of the mall is probably the most dated and the biggest eyesore.

I heard that apparently Walmart fully owns its unit, separate from the mall. It seems they have little incentive to apply improvements.

That fits with what is shown on the plan. It looks like Walmart, plus an oddly-shaped portion of the parking lot, is a separate property. Then the “existing anchor” at the west end is similar, and the old Sears part similarly again, although in that case the property line appears to run down the middle of a corridor which is a bit strange. I wonder if Walmart is the only one not owned by the same owner as the mall?

As long as the birbs still have a prominent place. That’s what really matters.


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - D40LF - 06-19-2018

It may be worth mentioning that the Fairview Walmart will be undergoing renovation soon. I don't have a timeline, but I imagine that it would start as early as this summer as The Boardwalk Walmart was slated to begin in July but was pushed back until 2019 in favor of the Fairview location.


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - panamaniac - 06-19-2018

(06-19-2018, 08:34 PM)D40LF Wrote: It may be worth mentioning that the Fairview Walmart will be undergoing renovation soon. I don't have a timeline, but I imagine that it would start as early as this summer as The Boardwalk Walmart was slated to begin in July but was pushed back until 2019 in favor of the Fairview location.

Just renovation, or expansion into a Supercentre?


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - jeffster - 06-19-2018

(06-19-2018, 08:34 PM)D40LF Wrote: It may be worth mentioning that the Fairview Walmart will be undergoing renovation soon. I don't have a timeline, but I imagine that it would start as early as this summer as The Boardwalk Walmart was slated to begin in July but was pushed back until 2019 in favor of the Fairview location.

They're doing something at the Wal*Mart at Sunrise, guess we'll see how it looks when it's done...

IIRC, Wal*Mart Fairview wanted to move to be separate from the mall, with the old Wal*Mart becoming a host to new stores...something about the Wal*Mart being to close to the highway made it impossible for them to move.


RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - D40LF - 06-19-2018

(06-19-2018, 09:27 PM)panamaniac Wrote: Just renovation, or expansion into a Supercentre?
It's a renovation of the existing space, similar to what was done in Cambridge and is being done at Sunrise. No expansion.

It has always been my understanding that Cadillac Fairview does not want the store to expand outwards.

(06-19-2018, 09:30 PM)jeffster Wrote: They're doing something at the Wal*Mart at Sunrise, guess we'll see how it looks when it's done...

IIRC, Wal*Mart Fairview wanted to move to be separate from the mall, with the old Wal*Mart becoming a host to new stores...something about the Wal*Mart being to close to the highway made it impossible for them to move.
Sunrise is being renovated. It's slated to be completed in August. For a free preview, shop at the Cambridge store. It was completed in November. Wink

I'm testing my memory here, but I do recall a proposal to move the Fairview store across the street to where the cinema is currently located. I want to say this was back in 2006 or so, when the mall was renovated, but I could be wrong on that.