Quote:In July, the region will install the 4.45-kilometre network of separated bike lanes, connecting Waterloo's two universities with uptown Waterloo. The lanes will be separated from traffic by concrete curbs or flexible bollards and will be plowed in winter.

Quote:Installing the lanes — mostly at night and on weekends to reduce traffic disruptions — will cost $1.9 million. With additional costs reaching $350,000 a year, mainly for snow removal.

Quote:The network will reduce King Street to just one driving lane in each direction between University and Columbia, and reduce Erb Street from three driving lanes to two.

(03-07-2019, 11:35 AM)timc Wrote: I ride on University Avenue every day, and I had no idea this was coming. Was there any public consultation? How are we dealing with the bus stops where there are protected bike lanes? I always end up playing leapfrog with the buses. Will the buses now just stop in the regular lane with pedestrians crossing the bike lane to get to the bus? How accessible is that? So many questions.

(03-07-2019, 01:41 PM)jamincan Wrote: In Copenhagen, the bus stops in the normal lane and passengers disembark into the bike lane. I would think that bikes ought to yield to the bus, but it seems that the standard there is for passengers to check before crossing.

(03-07-2019, 01:24 PM)creative Wrote: How do you avoid the bus stopping in the bike lane and/or stopping in the driving lane and have departing passengers exit into the bike lane? I don’t have any idea how to solve this problem. What solutions would you propose?

(03-07-2019, 03:55 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: [1] There is a product which allows a city to develop bus stop bypasses as a temporary installation, however because it is a retrofit solution it *does* require more streets space, which probably isn't an option on University without removing lanes (it *might* be possible removing ONLY turn lanes, but that would still be a non-starter I think). Still, it is something that might fit on King St. as we are already removing a lane, so possibly they will try it there, I did raise the existence of this product with the project manager....well...at least the previous one.

(03-07-2019, 07:22 PM)ijmorlan Wrote:

(03-07-2019, 03:55 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: [1] There is a product which allows a city to develop bus stop bypasses as a temporary installation, however because it is a retrofit solution it *does* require more streets space, which probably isn't an option on University without removing lanes (it *might* be possible removing ONLY turn lanes, but that would still be a non-starter I think). Still, it is something that might fit on King St. as we are already removing a lane, so possibly they will try it there, I did raise the existence of this product with the project manager....well...at least the previous one.

Turn lanes definitely should not be removed. It might be OK to remove regular lanes (personally, I would reduce almost all 4-lane roads in the city to 2-lane), but not turn lanes. In fact, in many places the problem is that we have more regular lanes than we need and not enough turn lanes (I’m looking at you, Belmont! And you, Westmount! Don’t make me come over there, Union!).