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RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - danbrotherston - 06-04-2017
So I just noticed, the committee meeting tomorrow for Kitchener has on it's agenda, a tender for reconstructing Mill St. from Ottawa to Courtland.
https://www.kitchener.ca/en/Calendar/Download.ashx?Id=d38576ea-f84e-48ba-a601-3623922e2ede
This road is on the cycling master plan as requiring a bike lane, yet the tender makes no mention of this requirement.
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - PhilippAchtel - 06-04-2017
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/reevely-ottawa-looks-to-save-builders-and-buyers-millions-on-new-subdivisions
Quote:Reevely: Ottawa looks to save builders (and buyers) millions on new subdivisions
We can save millions of dollars on new suburban roads by building bike tracks next to them instead of painting bike lanes on them, the city has realized.
It’s part of a big package of ideas for making Ottawa’s new subdivisions cheaper to construct that planners and developers have been working on for years, and probably the most obviously smart.
Roads for cars and trucks are paved atop layer after layer of stabilizing foundation; they have to withstand years of pressure from thousands of pounds of rubber and glass and metal. A cyclist weighs a couple of hundred pounds at most, and there’s no point, the city has realized, in building a road extra wide only to reserve a metre on either side of it for bikes. Cycle tracks next to sidewalks, on beds built to the lighter sidewalk standards, are good enough.
Better, in fact, because most cyclists prefer to be up and away from car traffic, protected from motor vehicles by more than a line of paint. So the city can save $41 for every metre of road we build by doing what cyclists want anyway.
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - nms - 06-04-2017
Hopefully this discovery will lead to more off-road bike paths along major arterials. While I may use an onroad bike lane when biking solo, I refuse to dare to pull a children's trailer along an onroad bike lane.
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - tomh009 - 06-04-2017
(06-04-2017, 08:25 PM)PhilippAchtel Wrote: http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/reevely-ottawa-looks-to-save-builders-and-buyers-millions-on-new-subdivisions
Quote:Reevely: Ottawa looks to save builders (and buyers) millions on new subdivisions
Roads for cars and trucks are paved atop layer after layer of stabilizing foundation; they have to withstand years of pressure from thousands of pounds of rubber and glass and metal. A cyclist weighs a couple of hundred pounds at most, and there’s no point, the city has realized, in building a road extra wide only to reserve a metre on either side of it for bikes. Cycle tracks next to sidewalks, on beds built to the lighter sidewalk standards, are good enough.
Better, in fact, because most cyclists prefer to be up and away from car traffic, protected from motor vehicles by more than a line of paint. So the city can save $41 for every metre of road we build by doing what cyclists want anyway.
On new roads this makes sense. On existing roads, though, it's probably more expensive than reusing the main road surface. (Not to argue that it wouldn't be better, though.)
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - Coke6pk - 06-05-2017
Just came back from a weekend in Ottawa, and I saw these for the first time. (If they are not new, then I just haven't noticed them):
Bike lanes have their own traffic signals: (Sorry for the lack of focus)
The traffic signals can be prioritized with sensors in the pavement for you to park over:
Coke
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - panamaniac - 06-05-2017
(06-04-2017, 08:09 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: So I just noticed, the committee meeting tomorrow for Kitchener has on it's agenda, a tender for reconstructing Mill St. from Ottawa to Courtland.
https://www.kitchener.ca/en/Calendar/Download.ashx?Id=d38576ea-f84e-48ba-a601-3623922e2ede
This road is on the cycling master plan as requiring a bike lane, yet the tender makes no mention of this requirement.
No mention of sidewalks either, it seems.
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - danbrotherston - 06-05-2017
(06-05-2017, 09:46 AM)panamaniac Wrote:(06-04-2017, 08:09 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: So I just noticed, the committee meeting tomorrow for Kitchener has on it's agenda, a tender for reconstructing Mill St. from Ottawa to Courtland.
https://www.kitchener.ca/en/Calendar/Download.ashx?Id=d38576ea-f84e-48ba-a601-3623922e2ede
This road is on the cycling master plan as requiring a bike lane, yet the tender makes no mention of this requirement.
No mention of sidewalks either, it seems.
I think it does mention sidewalks. Are there not currently sidewalks on that section?
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - panamaniac - 06-05-2017
(06-05-2017, 09:50 AM)danbrotherston Wrote:(06-05-2017, 09:46 AM)panamaniac Wrote: No mention of sidewalks either, it seems.
I think it does mention sidewalks. Are there not currently sidewalks on that section?
I hope you are right. There are no sidewalks on the "north" side of Mill between the Joy townhouse development and Ottawa St (!), or on the "south" side of Mill between Heiman and Stirling.
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - panamaniac - 06-05-2017
(06-05-2017, 09:33 AM)Coke6pk Wrote: Just came back from a weekend in Ottawa, and I saw these for the first time. (If they are not new, then I just haven't noticed them):
Bike lanes have their own traffic signals: (Sorry for the lack of focus)
The traffic signals can be prioritized with sensors in the pavement for you to park over:
Coke
From a motorist's perspective, it is a bit daunting to turn left across that new two-way bike lane (I know that I proceed with maximum caution). There was an accident and some other incidents when it opened earlier this year, but things seem to have settled down. I think the bicyclists approaching from behind realize that a car signalling a left turn may not have good visibility of their approach.
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - mpd618 - 06-05-2017
(06-04-2017, 08:09 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: So I just noticed, the committee meeting tomorrow for Kitchener has on it's agenda, a tender for reconstructing Mill St. from Ottawa to Courtland.
https://www.kitchener.ca/en/Calendar/Download.ashx?Id=d38576ea-f84e-48ba-a601-3623922e2ede
This road is on the cycling master plan as requiring a bike lane, yet the tender makes no mention of this requirement.
Sounds like Belmont Ave, which Kitchener is rebuilding as is with zero consideration of road diet or bike infrastructure.
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - danbrotherston - 06-05-2017
(06-05-2017, 10:26 PM)mpd618 Wrote:(06-04-2017, 08:09 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: So I just noticed, the committee meeting tomorrow for Kitchener has on it's agenda, a tender for reconstructing Mill St. from Ottawa to Courtland.
https://www.kitchener.ca/en/Calendar/Download.ashx?Id=d38576ea-f84e-48ba-a601-3623922e2ede
This road is on the cycling master plan as requiring a bike lane, yet the tender makes no mention of this requirement.
Sounds like Belmont Ave, which Kitchener is rebuilding as is with zero consideration of road diet or bike infrastructure.
I got a response from the project manager indicating that bike infrastructure will be considered.
Yes, Belmont drives me mad. Crossing it is a huge challenge for the trail, which I use frequently.
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - danbrotherston - 06-08-2017
I noticed today a whole slew more cyclist dismount or face penalty signs at Westmount and Father David Bauer today. Anyone notice these anywhere else?
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - timio - 06-14-2017
I'm currently in Victoria and saw this neat trail counter (excuse the refresh - the top line was over 14M, and over 900 today (before 11am)
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - Canard - 06-14-2017
Very cool! A little fancier than the static signs on the Iron Horse and Laurel trails
RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - danbrotherston - 06-14-2017
I believe a sign similar to this is planned for the bike lanes on King. Very exciting.