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RE: General Retail News - DHLawrence - 10-26-2017

Plus the revolving door storefronts making it harder to keep up a steady presence of pedestrians. Everyone blames Cambridge Centre but it was like that before the mall was (re)built; everyone just went to Fairview instead.


RE: General Retail News - Section ThirtyOne - 10-26-2017

(10-26-2017, 07:36 AM)darts Wrote: From the sounds of it it has grown higher in cambridge compared to the rest of the region. How much is from the rest of the region's homeless being kicked out of downtown Kitchener and how much is coming in because courts in other cities are sending people to cambridge at Bridges for treatment during the day.

Since when are the homeless being kicked out of downtown Kitchener? Serious question.


RE: General Retail News - panamaniac - 10-26-2017

(10-26-2017, 11:20 AM)Section ThirtyOne Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 07:36 AM)darts Wrote: From the sounds of it it has grown higher in cambridge compared to the rest of the region. How much is from the rest of the region's homeless being kicked out of downtown Kitchener and how much is coming in because courts in other cities are sending people to cambridge at Bridges for treatment during the day.

Since when are the homeless being kicked out of downtown Kitchener? Serious question.

I had the same question.  It's news to me.


RE: General Retail News - Viewfromthe42 - 10-26-2017

It would be news to me as well. There are many regulars I come across walking to and from work, and I don't think I've seen any change. Anecdotal, yes, but still.


RE: General Retail News - tomh009 - 10-26-2017

I agree, there is no sign of it. Waterloo is a whole different matter though.


RE: General Retail News - embe - 10-26-2017

(10-26-2017, 11:20 AM)Section ThirtyOne Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 07:36 AM)darts Wrote: From the sounds of it it has grown higher in cambridge compared to the rest of the region. How much is from the rest of the region's homeless being kicked out of downtown Kitchener and how much is coming in because courts in other cities are sending people to cambridge at Bridges for treatment during the day.

Since when are the homeless being kicked out of downtown Kitchener? Serious question.

Wasn't there a building somewhere on Weber st. DTK where a lot of squatters (and other questionable people) got "evicted" from?  Not saying everyone in the building was a bad apple, but I recall an article somewhere.


RE: General Retail News - tomh009 - 10-26-2017

(10-26-2017, 06:12 PM)embe Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 11:20 AM)Section ThirtyOne Wrote: Since when are the homeless being kicked out of downtown Kitchener? Serious question.

Wasn't there a building somewhere on Weber st. DTK where a lot of squatters (and other questionable people) got "evicted" from?  Not saying everyone in the building was a bad apple, but I recall an article somewhere.

Yes, that was one of the jewels of the Terry Good slum portfolio.  But those people did not get kicked out of Kitchener, just cleared out of the building in which they were squatting.


RE: General Retail News - darts - 10-26-2017

(10-26-2017, 11:20 AM)Section ThirtyOne Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 07:36 AM)darts Wrote: From the sounds of it it has grown higher in cambridge compared to the rest of the region. How much is from the rest of the region's homeless being kicked out of downtown Kitchener and how much is coming in because courts in other cities are sending people to cambridge at Bridges for treatment during the day.

Since when are the homeless being kicked out of downtown Kitchener? Serious question.

So other city's problems are being diverted to Cambridge then? The amount of people he had to interact with grew substantially.


RE: General Retail News - DHLawrence - 10-27-2017

(10-26-2017, 07:02 PM)tomh009 Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 06:12 PM)embe Wrote: Wasn't there a building somewhere on Weber st. DTK where a lot of squatters (and other questionable people) got "evicted" from?  Not saying everyone in the building was a bad apple, but I recall an article somewhere.

Yes, that was one of the jewels of the Terry Good slum portfolio.  But those people did not get kicked out of Kitchener, just cleared out of the building in which they were squatting.

Do we know where they are now? Just because they were only kicked out of the building doesn't mean they stayed in Kitchener.


RE: General Retail News - panamaniac - 10-27-2017

(10-27-2017, 12:57 AM)DHLawrence Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 07:02 PM)tomh009 Wrote: Yes, that was one of the jewels of the Terry Good slum portfolio.  But those people did not get kicked out of Kitchener, just cleared out of the building in which they were squatting.

Do we know where they are now? Just because they were only kicked out of the building doesn't mean they stayed in Kitchener.

Doesn't mean they left either.  I'm not aware of any change in services in either city that would have led to a shift of homeless from Kitchener to Cambridge, unless the ending of the Out of the Cold program had an impact.


RE: General Retail News - MidTowner - 10-27-2017

I asked that question in the Cambridge thread, and am really curious.

The Out of the Cold programs in Kitchener-Waterloo were replaced by a shelter in Kitchener run by the Region, weren't they?

That's what happened in Cambridge with Bridges- the churches wound down their Out of the Cold services, for them to be replaced by Regional services there. A lot of the posts on those facebook groups seem to be indirectly blaming Bridges, but it's been around for more than a decade, and I don't think its services have been expanded, have they?


RE: General Retail News - panamaniac - 10-27-2017

(10-27-2017, 09:09 AM)MidTowner Wrote: I asked that question in the Cambridge thread, and am really curious.

The Out of the Cold programs in Kitchener-Waterloo were replaced by a shelter in Kitchener run by the Region, weren't they?

That's what happened in Cambridge with Bridges- the churches wound down their Out of the Cold services, for them to be replaced by Regional services there. A lot of the posts on those facebook groups seem to be indirectly blaming Bridges, but it's been around for more than a decade, and I don't think its services have been expanded, have they?

Didn't Bridges expand a couple of years ago?  Perhaps I'm thinking of something else.  In any event, such facilities are normally built to meet an existing demand, not in anticipation of new demand.

Edit:  Off-topic alert!


RE: General Retail News - tomh009 - 10-27-2017

Maybe we could create a separate thread for homelessness issues and move this discussion there ...


RE: General Retail News - JoeKW - 10-27-2017

I don't think anything changed with Bridges, it's the opiate crisis reaching a new level that we haven't seen here before. Sad


RE: General Retail News - Section ThirtyOne - 10-27-2017

(10-27-2017, 11:47 AM)JoeKW Wrote: I don't think anything changed with Bridges, it's the opiate crisis reaching a new level that we haven't seen here before. Sad

Agreed, and the effects of that crisis are very visible. Photos from that Facebook page such as the one with the guy passed out mid-afternoon with a needle in his arm paint a pretty grim reality.