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RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 05-12-2017

Not sure if this is the appropriate thread, but I see that the Globe and Mail is reporting that, as part of its reforms to the OMB, the Province is planning to allow municipalities to bar challenges to approved developments near GO Transit, subway or light-rail stations (my bold)  in order to support the goal of boosting density near transit lines.

In theory, this seems like great news, but I suspect that a few community associations in Kitchener and Waterloo will be on the phones to city councillors tomorrow morning....

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/omb-challenges-to-be-barred-within-500-metres-of-transit-stations/article34979676/


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - ijmorlan - 05-12-2017

(05-12-2017, 07:15 PM)panamaniac Wrote: Not sure if this is the appropriate thread, but I see that the Globe and Mail is reporting that, as part of its reforms to the OMB, the Province is planning to allow municipalities to bar challenges to approved developments near GO Transit, subway or light-rail stations (my bold)  in order to support the goal of boosting density near transit lines.

In theory, this seems like great news, but I suspect that a few community associations in Kitchener and Waterloo will be on the phones to city councillors tomorrow morning....

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/omb-challenges-to-be-barred-within-500-metres-of-transit-stations/article34979676/

This seems crazy. If the challenge process is so messed up that it is even remotely reasonable to bar challenges entirely, then the process is need of severe correction. Presumably the whole point of the process is that somebody could have a reasonable objection, and the process provides a way for them to present the objection and for it to be considered. Just because a location is a good location for intensification doesn’t mean challenges are inherently wrong.

The right solution would be to reform the process everywhere to discourage unreasonable complaints and do a better job of dealing with reasonable concerns.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Viewfromthe42 - 05-13-2017

I think the proposal isn't fully known, but there are different ways to interpret it. Does a municipality activating this ability make it apply in all cases within 500m of a station, or does it allow them to choose where decisions made within 500m of a station will be un-OMB-able? I'm thinking a bit of moments like with the restaurant proposal on Ottawa (admittedly not within a transit station), the idea being that council had a proposal, the proposal was supported by staff, the proposal made sense within its context, but council seemed to vote against it because of resident opposition and threat of residents appealing it to the OMB. It might be that this allows council to make their well-thought-out plans unappealable. I know residents who thought that 1Vic was incredibly inappropriate for its site, even the Kaufman conversion, and I would hate to think of council having to work through the change LRT is going to bring under permanent auspices of OMB appeals. In many cases within 500m of ION stations, developments will still require rezoning and overall approval BEFORE they would become unappealable. The ODC site at Roger and Moore is a decent example of a spot within 500m of an ION station (just), where a development has very minimal neighbour impacts, but there are already residents claiming that virtually anything to happen on that site would be inappropriate.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 05-13-2017

(05-13-2017, 12:23 PM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: I think the proposal isn't fully known, but there are different ways to interpret it. Does a municipality activating this ability make it apply in all cases within 500m of a station, or does it allow them to choose where decisions made within 500m of a station will be un-OMB-able? I'm thinking a bit of moments like with the restaurant proposal on Ottawa (admittedly not within a transit station), the idea being that council had a proposal, the proposal was supported by staff, the proposal made sense within its context, but council seemed to vote against it because of resident opposition and threat of residents appealing it to the OMB. It might be that this allows council to make their well-thought-out plans unappealable. I know residents who thought that 1Vic was incredibly inappropriate for its site, even the Kaufman conversion, and I would hate to think of council having to work through the change LRT is going to bring under permanent auspices of OMB appeals. In many cases within 500m of ION stations, developments will still require rezoning and overall approval BEFORE they would become unappealable. The ODC site at Roger and Moore is a decent example of a spot within 500m of an ION station (just), where a development has very minimal neighbour impacts, but there are already residents claiming that virtually anything to happen on that site would be inappropriate.

That was the site that popped into my mind when I saw the news of the reported reform.  Assuming the municipality approves the up-zoning, I'd be very happy to see the option of an OMB appeal closed off.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - jeffster - 05-13-2017

(05-12-2017, 07:15 PM)panamaniac Wrote: Not sure if this is the appropriate thread, but I see that the Globe and Mail is reporting that, as part of its reforms to the OMB, the Province is planning to allow municipalities to bar challenges to approved developments near GO Transit, subway or light-rail stations (my bold)  in order to support the goal of boosting density near transit lines.

In theory, this seems like great news, but I suspect that a few community associations in Kitchener and Waterloo will be on the phones to city councillors tomorrow morning....

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/omb-challenges-to-be-barred-within-500-metres-of-transit-stations/article34979676/

Hey, even if this is a go (pun not intended), you'll still get those NIMBY's in full force, even if they're 25 metres from a line. And politicians do like to keep they're job enough to give developers a hard time. But it's a great idea and I hope it goes through. Really essential for the LRT's success to have lots of upbuild around the cities (also thinking Cambridge here) core and along the lines.

I think the region really has an excellent chance at becoming something pretty amazing over the next couple decades.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Square - 05-16-2017

More news about the old Schreiter's Building : https://www.therecord.com/news-story/7318837-tech-firm-leases-downtown-kitchener-building-that-housed-furniture-store-for-decades/


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - KevinL - 05-16-2017

Any guesses on the unnamed 'tech company'?


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - GtwoK - 05-16-2017

(05-16-2017, 10:22 PM)KevinL Wrote: Any guesses on the unnamed 'tech company'?

I'm about 90% sure I know which company it is based on hints that have been dropped by a friend that works there concerning their "rapid expansion", but I also don't want to get anyone in trouble... if I'm correct though, it's not a company new to the downtown core.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 05-17-2017

(05-16-2017, 10:54 PM)GtwoK Wrote:
(05-16-2017, 10:22 PM)KevinL Wrote: Any guesses on the unnamed 'tech company'?

I'm about 90% sure I know which company it is based on hints that have been dropped by a friend that works there concerning their "rapid expansion", but I also don't want to get anyone in trouble... if I'm correct though, it's not a company new to the downtown core.

Is it a company with an office next door?  Smile


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - GtwoK - 05-17-2017

(05-17-2017, 07:10 AM)panamaniac Wrote:
(05-16-2017, 10:54 PM)GtwoK Wrote: I'm about 90% sure I know which company it is based on hints that have been dropped by a friend that works there concerning their "rapid expansion", but I also don't want to get anyone in trouble... if I'm correct though, it's not a company new to the downtown core.

Is it a company with an office next door?  Smile

I will neither confirm nor deny   Smile


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - creative - 05-17-2017

I heard it was from a very reliable source.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - GtwoK - 05-17-2017

(05-17-2017, 02:42 PM)creative Wrote: I heard it was from a very reliable source.

Hey now, I'm not claiming to to have any, uh... Insider information. I'm as speculative as you guys are! Panamaniac seems to be picking up the same hints though...


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Rainrider22 - 05-17-2017

Does the last word of the name sound like labs?


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 05-17-2017

We have rumour consensus! Smile


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Smore - 05-17-2017

(05-17-2017, 03:14 PM)GtwoK Wrote:
(05-17-2017, 02:42 PM)creative Wrote: I heard it was from a very reliable source.

Hey now, I'm not claiming to to have any, uh... Insider information. I'm as speculative as you guys are! Panamaniac seems to be picking up the same hints though...

Insider has now been vindicated, no?