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RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Pheidippides - 08-15-2017

Looks like something is afoot at 624 King St W and 19 Wellington St N. A city of Kitchener report states that the holding provision on the Wellington address should be lifted following consolidation of the two properties:
"Staff have confirmed through the necessary documentation from the Land Registry Office that the subject lands at 19 Wellington Street North have been consolidated together with the lands addressed as 624 King Street West."


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 08-15-2017

(08-15-2017, 07:15 PM)Spokes Wrote: Not sure if this was posted anywhere, but saw this rendering of Perimeter Developments plan for the Eaton Lofts.  Very nice.  Not sure what the timeline is there though.

[Image: 276-King-KM3-LAB-160408_CAFE_comp.jpg]

Unless/until they find a principal tenant, I think the timeline is "don't hold your breath"....


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - rangersfan - 08-15-2017

Glad find Pheidippides according to the report there are plans for a multi residential building located at 624 King St W and 19 Wellington N. Public meeting scheduled for August 21 to discuss the zoning bylaw change?
No mention of the applicant just a numbered company.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 08-16-2017

(08-15-2017, 07:51 PM)panamaniac Wrote: Unless/until they find a principal tenant, I think the timeline is "don't hold your breath"....

Yes ... the renderings are from quite some time ago.  It's a good location and hopefully someone takes the opportunity.

It would also be good for the Eaton Lofts condo owners who endured the developer bankruptcy for nine (!) years and are now having to pay some of the highest condo fees in the region to get the building's finances into shape.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - MidTowner - 08-16-2017

I recall a rendering someone posted here for a grid iron-shaped building to replace what was then the car repair shop at King and Wellington. I can't find where it was posted. I suppose it was a couple of years ago now.

Together those lots are about a third of an acre, less than half of the Midtown Lofts lot, but still large enough for something that would add value.

Fingers crossed that the payday loans place across the street is up soon, too.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Viewfromthe42 - 08-16-2017

(04-03-2017, 06:15 PM)MidTowner Wrote: On page 114, Viewfromthe42 says that the lots are to be sodded, but speculates that the intent might be to use them for parking. Others speculate that some portion of the parking lot may be redeveloped, but who knows when.

Strictly speaking, a condition of the demolition permit is that these two lots be sodded. That should be what happens until some other application is made.

If there is a part of the demolition permit that required those properties to be sodded, well, Google/Perimeter has definitely broken it... very much a lovely new segment of parking lot extended from the sea that surrounded these homes.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - MidTowner - 08-16-2017

It was a condition that they be sodded. You're right that it's now bright black asphalt.

I personally don't know how much it matters. I guess it's odd that the municipal government would be paying people in the neighbourhood to install rain barrels and cisterns while ignoring four thousand square feet of illegal parking lot. But the more concerning thing for me is if this reduces the chance of redevelopment.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Viewfromthe42 - 08-16-2017

(08-16-2017, 08:28 AM)MidTowner Wrote: It was a condition that they be sodded. You're right that it's now bright black asphalt.

I personally don't know how much it matters. I guess it's odd that the municipal government would be paying people in the neighbourhood to install rain barrels and cisterns while ignoring four thousand square feet of illegal parking lot. But the more concerning thing for me is if this reduces the chance of redevelopment.

Where is the permit that specifically references requirement to be sodded? I thought I looked through the permit but without seeing any reference to what would happen to the site after demolition, other than to enable eventual redevelopment.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Pheidippides - 08-16-2017

From page 2 of http://kitchener.ca.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=651&meta_id=37669

"The properties will be sodded and maintained until development."


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Smore - 08-17-2017

(08-16-2017, 04:17 PM)Pheidippides Wrote: From page 2 of http://kitchener.ca.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=651&meta_id=37669

"The properties will be sodded and maintained until development."

Perhaps the intent is simply to avoid erosion and dust and accordingly in the view of the City, pavement reaches the same result


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 08-18-2017

(08-16-2017, 04:17 PM)Pheidippides Wrote: From page 2 of http://kitchener.ca.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=651&meta_id=37669

"The properties will be sodded and maintained until development."

So it was part of the proposal, but apparently not a requirement in the permit.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Viewfromthe42 - 08-18-2017

I just have to laugh at anyone who believed that.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - kps - 08-18-2017

It may have been the intent, as the parking under 25 Breithaupt had been expected to be open by then, but got delayed due to Grandlinq blocking the King St emergency exit.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - MidTowner - 08-18-2017

I think that's probably generous.

It shouldn't have been written in the report if it was not going to be made a requirement of the permit. If it was to be made a requirement of the permit, it should be enforced.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - kevinchoi519 - 08-18-2017

those two properties are zoned r-5 which require full demo control. the abutting properties are also zoned r-5 with special regulations to allow commercial parking facility. technically speaking the parking lot there now is illegal as the zoning does not allow it and they did not go through site plan as the city wouldn't approve a site plan without zoning. im guess they put the sodding statement in to cover their own butts . Either way from rumours we have all been reading and hearing seems like all the lands will be part of a planning process and the site will be redeveloped as intended ...my guess is the parking is temp and the city doesnt care to enforce something thats temp.