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RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 11-25-2017

(11-25-2017, 11:31 AM)jgsz Wrote: Frank Etherington in his most recent post writes:

Quote:Recently I learned about plans to build a 25-storey tower beside the Tannery at Francis and Charles streets and another 20-plus-storey building at Victoria and Bramm streets. One positive part about the proposal alongside The Tannery is the possibility it will include the first downtown grocery store in the city’s west end.

This is the first time I've heard about his project.  Anyone have any more details?

There was a passing mention (nothing specific) the other week in SCC about possible development on the Manulife parking lot, which is one corner at Charles and Francis. I would have thought the municipal parking lot between Charles and Hall's Lane might be more likely - someone told me years ago that the City envisaged a Downtown supermarket in that general area.  

Actually, it occurs to me that the other parking lot at Charles and Francis, the one in the U-Hall block, is also Manulife's and it might be the more obvious choice for development, being a bit wider than the City lot across the street.

Hope it happens!


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - jgsz - 11-25-2017

(11-25-2017, 12:00 PM)panamaniac Wrote: There was a passing mention (nothing specific) the other week in SCC about possible development on the Manulife parking lot, which is one corner at Charles and Francis. I would have thought the municipal parking lot between Charles and Hall's Lane might be more likely - someone told me years ago that the City envisaged a Downtown supermarket in that general area.  

Actually, it occurs to me that the other parking lot at Charles and Francis, the one in the U-Hall block, is also Manulife's and it might be the more obvious choice for development, being a bit wider than the City lot across the street.

Hope it happens!

Me too!

In his blog, Etherington mentions 10 major high-rise projects downtown.  Does anyone know which 10 projects he's talking about.  I can think of about 5 but no more. 

Quote:It’s unlikely Ottawa’s recent and overdue housing strategy will be in place when at least 10 major high-rise projects dramatically change Kitchener’s skyline during the next few years.



RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 11-25-2017

SIXO, 100 and 120 Victoria S, Charlie West, City Centre 2 (?), Drewlo on King E. Arrow Lofts 2.  Maybe he's including Breithaupt Block 3 as "Downtown".  What else?

Re the new National Housing Strategy, my guess would be that Kitchener would be more likely to seen some affordable low or midrise buildings in the Downtown periphery than towers that would define the skyline.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - rangersfan - 11-25-2017

The project he mentions at Victoria and Bramm St is likely the Momentum project at 120 Victoria St.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - rangersfan - 11-25-2017

Panamaniac what is SCC?


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 11-25-2017

(11-25-2017, 12:52 PM)rangersfan Wrote: Panamaniac what is SCC?

I'm sorry - I meant SSP (SkyscraperPage).  I think I was thinking of SSC (SkyscraperCity), which I haven't visited for ages.  My bad.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - rangersfan - 11-25-2017

A few months ago there was some discussion on here (this thread p126 to p127) about a potential Manulife project Downtown, I wonder if this is the project Mr. Etherington was referring to next to the Tannery.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 11-25-2017

(11-23-2017, 11:28 AM)Coke6pk Wrote: More than just a simple expansion...

Quote:"...they're going to build a brand-new building for the LCBO," Seiling said, adding that he had seen concept drawings from DiBattista.

Coke

Well, the quote above is a bit incomplete.  The complete quote says (highlight mine):
Quote:"They're going to have to demolish part of the building. They're going to build a brand-new building for the LCBO," Seiling said, adding that he had seen concept drawings from DiBattista.

Given that they are planning to open in the spring, they don't have much time for construction, so this needs to be a relatively simple and quick project.  Maybe they will keep the front of the buildings (whether facade or more than that), demolish the back part of all the buildings, and then add a simple single-storey new build at the back?


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 11-25-2017

(11-25-2017, 12:00 PM)panamaniac Wrote: There was a passing mention (nothing specific) the other week in SCC about possible development on the Manulife parking lot, which is one corner at Charles and Francis. I would have thought the municipal parking lot between Charles and Hall's Lane might be more likely - someone told me years ago that the City envisaged a Downtown supermarket in that general area.  

The vision is good. But getting one of the grocery chains to sign up for an urban-format store is easier said than done. They seem to believe that we need a lot more people downtown before such a store is viable.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - EdM - 11-25-2017

(11-25-2017, 12:32 PM)panamaniac Wrote: SIXO, 100 and 120 Victoria S, Charlie West, City Centre 2 (?), Drewlo on King E. Arrow Lofts 2.  Maybe he's including Breithaupt Block 3 as "Downtown".  What else?

Maybe each tower at SIXO and 100 Victoria is being counted separately? Also the Nougat / garage condo project beside the Iron Horse Trail should be in the list. Barra Castle is not a high-rise but otherwise fits with the premise of Etherington's article.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Viewfromthe42 - 11-27-2017

One of the employees at the current downtown LCBO suggested that the goal for opening of the new site was either March or January (!). I misheard, but one of those two.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 11-27-2017

(11-27-2017, 09:29 AM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: One of the employees at the current downtown LCBO suggested that the goal for opening of the new site was either March or January (!). I misheard, but one of those two.

There is no building permit yet so surely January is all but impossible.  March, maybe, if they are limiting the amount of new construction.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - MidTowner - 11-27-2017

I was told about this back in June by one of the clerks there. She said at that time they were being told around the new year. I asked a different one the other week, and she just shrugged, alluded (as they often have) to the lack of communication to them by management. She did say they weren't betting on January any more.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - LesPio - 11-28-2017

(11-25-2017, 08:22 PM)rangersfan Wrote: A few months ago there was some discussion on here (this thread p126 to p127) about a potential Manulife project Downtown, I wonder if this is the project Mr. Etherington was referring to next to the Tannery.

Manulife looking at big development for downtown Kitchener parking lot

https://www.therecord.com/news-story/7967321-manulife-looking-at-big-development-for-downtown-kitchener-parking-lot/


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - jgsz - 11-28-2017

(11-25-2017, 10:44 PM)EdM Wrote:
(11-25-2017, 12:32 PM)panamaniac Wrote: SIXO, 100 and 120 Victoria S, Charlie West, City Centre 2 (?), Drewlo on King E. Arrow Lofts 2.  Maybe he's including Breithaupt Block 3 as "Downtown".  What else?

Maybe each tower at SIXO and 100 Victoria is being counted separately? Also the Nougat / garage condo project beside the Iron Horse Trail should be in the list. Barra Castle is not a high-rise but otherwise fits with the premise of Etherington's article.

The latest in today's Record reports:

Quote:The Manulife application is among 10 active site plan applications for downtown projects under review by the city. The applicants want to secure approvals and take out building permits before the end of February 2018. 

SIXO is still looking for financial partners so that project is probably not included.  And if they started Arrow Lofts 2 that wouldn't be under review anymore.  It will be very interesting to see what is submitted for review by the end of February.