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RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 12-01-2017

(12-01-2017, 10:09 AM)GtwoK Wrote: So all of those have been previously known about, except 334 King St W — which must be the new LCBO location. Too bad they aren't at least adding a third floor or something.

Given that they are repurposing the existing buildings (not quite heritage but still) I'm personally quite OK with this plan.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - rangersfan - 12-01-2017

I would have liked to see the LCBO as part of the transit hub or as part of 345 King St W.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - urbd - 12-01-2017

(12-01-2017, 02:00 PM)rangersfan Wrote: I would have liked to see the LCBO as part of the transit hub or as part of 345 King St W.

wasn't it mentioned somewhere that SIXO will include a ground floor LCBO?


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 12-01-2017

(12-01-2017, 03:57 PM)urbd Wrote:
(12-01-2017, 02:00 PM)rangersfan Wrote: I would have liked to see the LCBO as part of the transit hub or as part of 345 King St W.

wasn't it mentioned somewhere that SIXO will include a ground floor LCBO?

Neither one of those works because they need to move now, not two or five years from now.  Of course either one could try to attract the LCBO once their lease at 334 expires.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - dubya - 12-01-2017

(12-01-2017, 06:43 AM)rangersfan Wrote: The CBC article has been updated to show a list of the ten projects going through the site plan review :

345 King St. W. for a six-storey office building
114 Victoria St. S. for an office and residential property
24 Gaukel St. which includes 31-storey residential building with ground floor commercial
54 Water St. which is Manulife's project that includes Francis and Charles
1 Queen St N. 3 storey addition to the existing building (residential units with ground floor commercial)
334 King St. W. 2 storey building with ground floor retail and upper floor office
51 David St. 6 storey residential building
112 Benton St. 15 storey residential building. That is a second building for Arrow Lofts which is has received final approval.
399 Queen St. S. Barra on Queen is a 6 storey residential building
607 King St. W. Sixo (which is a zoning amendment / official plan amendment – no site plan yet
20 Breithaupt St. (which is also a zoning amendment / official plan amendment – no site plan yet
64 Margaret Ave. – (3 and 6 storey residential buildings)

Just want to point out that this list does not seem to include:
48 Ontario redevelopment
Old Nougat redevelopment

Whether they aren't yet at an advanced enough stage with the city or for other reasons, I'm not sure. 

Seems that list should be at least 12 though.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 12-01-2017

(12-01-2017, 06:03 PM)dubya Wrote: Just want to point out that this list does not seem to include:
48 Ontario redevelopment
Old Nougat redevelopment

Whether they aren't yet at an advanced enough stage with the city or for other reasons, I'm not sure. 

Seems that list should be at least 12 though.

If they aren't under site plan review, they would not be listed.  The Drewlo project isn't there, either.  If they plan to go ahead, they'll need to get moving fairly quickly, 15 months is not a lot of time for this,


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - jgsz - 12-02-2017

(12-01-2017, 08:21 PM)tomh009 Wrote: If they aren't under site plan review, they would not be listed.  The Drewlo project isn't there, either.  If they plan to go ahead, they'll need to get moving fairly quickly, 15 months is not a lot of time for this,

Drewlo definitely wants the building plans in before the deadline.  If not they will have to pay 6.6 million in fees.  From the Record:

Quote:The extra fees are so significant, they could mean the difference between a project going ahead or not, said Allan Drewlo, vice-president of Drewlo Holdings. His downtown project will build about 450 rental apartments, so it would face almost $6.6 million in regional and city development charges if it misses the deadline.
.......

Meeting the deadline to avoid the millions in extra fees is crucial, said Drewlo, but it's not going to be easy. "It seems like a really long time (until the deadline), but our experience is it can drag on. We'd like to be going right now."



RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 12-02-2017

Funny to think that the just-announced Manulife project could proceed before Drewlo's, which has been around in one form or another for years now.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - KevinL - 12-02-2017

I gt the sense Manulife had been working on theirs awhile, just out of public view.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 12-02-2017

(12-02-2017, 10:53 AM)panamaniac Wrote: Funny to think that the just-announced Manulife project could proceed before Drewlo's, which has been around in one form or another for years now.

Manulife has engaged an external firm to run the project so that may be getting higher priority. We don't know what else Drewlo has in the works, in the region or elsewhere.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Spokes - 12-03-2017

And especially given that while we've known about a potential project here for some years, Drewlo has only recently been the owner of the land


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - MacBerry - 12-03-2017

(11-28-2017, 05:10 PM)Markster Wrote: Yeah, I don't see a major national/regional chain moving in for a long while.
They have their business plans.  Either a suburban store with ample parking, or an urban format designed for Toronto or Vancouver density.

I would expect to get something more local.  Kind of like Waterloo Central Supermarket in Campus Court plaza near the University.

Loblaw Corp has the Value-Mart in Uptown Waterloo. If the model for a medium to large store wasn't working they would have closed Value-Mart in the latest round of closing 50 non-profitable stores in November. More condos/rentals equal a changing eco-data market.

IMO: I believe a company like Loblaw will be wanting to add a Zehrs location to downtown with a Shoppers Drug inside it or in the same footprint under the podium area. That would allow them to vacate the Shoppers City Hall location. All that said nothing will be happening until 2020 or 2021 for leases. They have dozens of brands for just grocery stores alone.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - taylortbb - 12-04-2017

Valu-mart is a franchised brand, so the decision to close it would generally be up to the franchisee and not corporate. Zehrs however is a corporate owned brand, so subject to different considerations.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Viewfromthe42 - 12-04-2017

Valu Mart only works because you are at the nexus of two main roads (King and Erb probably represent nearly the busiest roads in Waterloo), and because you have mountains of parking. There aren't many options of that size in Downtown Kitchener, and with the no-streetfront-parking rules, creating a parking lot of that size wouldn't happen.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 12-04-2017

(12-04-2017, 09:01 AM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: Valu Mart only works because you are at the nexus of two main roads (King and Erb probably represent nearly the busiest roads in Waterloo), and because you have mountains of parking. There aren't many options of that size in Downtown Kitchener, and with the no-streetfront-parking rules, creating a parking lot of that size wouldn't happen.

One assumes that the Manulife project would include parking for the supermarket.