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RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Viewfromthe42 - 09-06-2018

https://www.therecord.com/news-story/8879868-heritage-committee-rejects-plan-to-demolish-homes-near-oneroof/

"The committee heard two versions of the heritage value of the homes. A report prepared for the developer argued that the homes had not particular merit and are similar to others in the Victoria Park heritage district. The city's Official Plan calls for greater density and intensification along Queen Street South, the report says, adding that other highrises surround the heritage homes.

But Leon Bensason, Kitchener's co-ordinator of heritage planning, said in his report to the committee that the homes are in fair to good condition and "are two surviving examples of a declining number of late 19th-century buildings located on Queen Street South" within the heritage district.

But most of the buildings in the Victoria Park heritage district that have been demolished have been along Queen Street, Bensason said. "Without careful planning, visual evidence that this is one of the earliest and most historic streets in the city could decline," the report says. Allowing the demolitions to go ahead could set a precedent for the loss of more homes along Queen, he said."

So even heritage admits there's nothing special about these houses, just that if you don't keep them, then we would have a downtown where people have homes, instead of a downtown where we remember that people with money can help to keep prices up for everyone.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 09-06-2018

Right. Nothing special about the houses, and not even in great condition. Given the direction to intensify Queen St S, rather than keeping a few token houses on this block, I fully expect the council to give this a green light. Assuming they work out an agreement with ROOF, that is.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Spokes - 09-06-2018

They do this all the time, they protect properties that aren't special. They frustrate me.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - clasher - 09-06-2018

(09-05-2018, 10:53 PM)panamaniac Wrote: Kitchener heritage committee has rejected Vive's application to demolish the houses at 254 and 262 Queen St S, which the developer owns. It did, however, approve demolition of the OneRoof building, which the developer does not own (say what?).

https://www.therecord.com/news-story/8881428-confusion-reigns-after-heritage-committee-ok-s-demolition-request-from-developer-who-doesn-t-own-building/

So until Roof finds another spot and sells their building there really won't be any action here?

Also can anyone just get heritage's approval to demolish property they don't own?


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 09-06-2018

It's interesting that the heritage committee had four people opposing the demolition of the Oneroof building (the vote was 6-4). Does that building have some hidden heritage attributes that I'm not aware of?


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 11:46 AM)tomh009 Wrote: It's interesting that the heritage committee had four people opposing the demolition of the Oneroof building (the vote was 6-4). Does that building have some hidden heritage attributes that I'm not aware of?

Thinking that demolition of OneRoof could put the other two houses at increased risk?


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - mpd618 - 09-08-2018

Maybe some of you folks want to apply to be on the Heritage Kitchener committee? My guess is that some of the people on it are there because they generally don't want things to change.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 09-08-2018

(09-08-2018, 01:48 PM)mpd618 Wrote: Maybe some of you folks want to apply to be on the Heritage Kitchener committee? My guess is that some of the people on it are there because they generally don't want things to change.

Good point!

Reading the terms of reference, the heritage committee only advises the council so while they may have recommended against the demolition of the two houses, the vote actually has no legal significance, it's only advice for the council.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Lens - 09-11-2018

Vive development must have bought a bunch of signs recently. There's now one on the old Joe's TV Colorama building at King and Onward.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 09-11-2018

(09-11-2018, 05:23 PM)Lens Wrote: Vive development must have bought a bunch of signs recently. There's now one on the old Joe's TV Colorama building at King and Onward.

That's 1020 King St E. Building permits have been issued for interior renovations and the reconstruction of the rear wall.


Vive certainly has a lot of projects on the go!


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Spokes - 09-11-2018

It's like they got a massive influx of funds and want to spend it while they have a chance haha


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Spokes - 09-13-2018

The Corner Pub at Charles and Ottawa has been torn down. It's neighbour has its windows ripped out and demo fencing around it.  Is this development related, ir Ottawa Street widening?


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Viewfromthe42 - 09-13-2018

Ottawa widening at this point


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Spokes - 09-13-2018

Darn


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 09-13-2018

I image that the work will open up a site for potential development once Ottawa has been widened.  Is the old bank building at the corner of King supposed to come down as well?