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RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - BruceAshe - 11-05-2019

I'm not able to really be impartial about this one. My kid goes to Suddaby and I'll admit I hate the idea of a construction zone right next to the school just because of the lack of air conditioning. The kids will find it super cool though.

I wish it was more clear how the Rome building will be incorporated. I love that house.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 11-05-2019

(11-05-2019, 07:59 PM)KevinL Wrote:
(11-05-2019, 07:54 PM)panamaniac Wrote:   I can't see it being saved from demolition, but it would be a shame to lose the house that Rome Transportation is in - it's a beauty that I think is unique in Kitchener, or nearly so.  

The article specifically states they WOULD save that house, and even boost its heritage standing.

Oops, I missed that.  A strong "plus" for the proposal, istm.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - westwardloo - 11-05-2019

(11-05-2019, 07:36 PM)BruceAshe Wrote: Anyone hear about this proposal? https://www.kitchenerpost.ca/news-story/9678098-developer-wants-to-build-10-storey-condo-on-the-former-tim-hortons-site-on-frederick-street-in-kitchener/?fbclid=iwar0oujmry3axu-52yllnuxe8_4shnisu123zbmx2nxcg00aqagvpiyibgps
I like it. I live in the neighborhood and welcome more density. It is a desirable place to live in the city. I think it is the perfect location for a mid rise condo building. It's not that far from fredrick station. I personally don't see how the nieghbourhood would be against this project. It's not really in the single family part. I can see maybe the 2 houses across the street being concerned, but the step backs seem reasonable enough and the majority of the shadows would fall on the new police hq across the way.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - BruceAshe - 11-05-2019

(11-05-2019, 08:23 PM)westwardloo Wrote:
(11-05-2019, 07:36 PM)BruceAshe Wrote: Anyone hear about this proposal? https://www.kitchenerpost.ca/news-story/9678098-developer-wants-to-build-10-storey-condo-on-the-former-tim-hortons-site-on-frederick-street-in-kitchener/?fbclid=iwar0oujmry3axu-52yllnuxe8_4shnisu123zbmx2nxcg00aqagvpiyibgps
I like it. I live in the neighborhood and welcome more density. It is a desirable place to live in the city. I think it is the perfect location for a mid rise condo building. It's not that far from fredrick station. I personally don't see how the nieghbourhood would be against this project. It's not really in the single family part. I can see maybe the 2 houses across the street being concerned, but the step backs seem reasonable enough and the majority of the shadows would fall on the new police hq across the way.

It'll be other people like me with kids that go to Suddaby that will object. I think this area is perfect for redevelopment and have a soft spot for flatirons buildings, but it's the process of getting to the finished stage I don't love. I'll admit to this purely being personal though. I live in King East and work downtown and I'm getting burnt out with the construction. I don't expect it to stop just for me and I do look forward to the improvements to my neighbourhood.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 11-05-2019

(11-05-2019, 08:34 PM)BruceAshe Wrote:
(11-05-2019, 08:23 PM)westwardloo Wrote: I like it. I live in the neighborhood and welcome more density. It is a desirable place to live in the city. I think it is the perfect location for a mid rise condo building. It's not that far from fredrick station. I personally don't see how the nieghbourhood would be against this project. It's not really in the single family part. I can see maybe the 2 houses across the street being concerned, but the step backs seem reasonable enough and the majority of the shadows would fall on the new police hq across the way.

It'll be other people like me with kids that go to Suddaby that will object. I think this area is perfect for redevelopment and have a soft spot for flatirons buildings, but it's the process of getting to the finished stage I don't love. I'll admit to this purely being personal though. I live in King East and work downtown and I'm getting burnt out with the construction. I don't expect it to stop just for me and I do look forward to the improvements to my neighbourhood.

Describing that rendering as a "flatiron building" seems quite a stretch, no?


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - BruceAshe - 11-05-2019

(11-05-2019, 08:38 PM)panamaniac Wrote:
(11-05-2019, 08:34 PM)BruceAshe Wrote: It'll be other people like me with kids that go to Suddaby that will object. I think this area is perfect for redevelopment and have a soft spot for flatirons buildings, but it's the process of getting to the finished stage I don't love. I'll admit to this purely being personal though. I live in King East and work downtown and I'm getting burnt out with the construction. I don't expect it to stop just for me and I do look forward to the improvements to my neighbourhood.

Describing that rendering as a "flatiron building" seems quite a stretch, no?
 The article described it that way so I'm hoping for the best.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Acitta - 11-05-2019

When did the Tim Horton's close?


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - westwardloo - 11-05-2019

(11-05-2019, 08:34 PM)BruceAshe Wrote:
(11-05-2019, 08:23 PM)westwardloo Wrote: I like it. I live in the neighborhood and welcome more density. It is a desirable place to live in the city. I think it is the perfect location for a mid rise condo building. It's not that far from fredrick station. I personally don't see how the nieghbourhood would be against this project. It's not really in the single family part. I can see maybe the 2 houses across the street being concerned, but the step backs seem reasonable enough and the majority of the shadows would fall on the new police hq across the way.

It'll be other people like me with kids that go to Suddaby that will object. I think this area is perfect for redevelopment and have a soft spot for flatirons buildings, but it's the process of getting to the finished stage I don't love. I'll admit to this purely being personal though. I live in King East and work downtown and I'm getting burnt out with the construction. I don't expect it to stop just for me and I do look forward to the improvements to my neighbourhood.
So I guess you're not against the development you just don't like the idea of potential dump trucks causing delays while dropping your kids off? From the render it seems like there is a large section close to the school that is surface parking which would probably be the staging area. And fredrick street which is 4 lanes at that location would be the only street effected. I will admit they seem pretty naive to think construction start 2020 and finished by 2021.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - westwardloo - 11-05-2019

(11-05-2019, 08:51 PM)Acitta Wrote: When did the Tim Horton's close?
A year or two ago. When the city allowed them to build a drive thru at fredrick st mall


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - BruceAshe - 11-05-2019

(11-05-2019, 08:55 PM)westwardloo Wrote:
(11-05-2019, 08:34 PM)BruceAshe Wrote: It'll be other people like me with kids that go to Suddaby that will object. I think this area is perfect for redevelopment and have a soft spot for flatirons buildings, but it's the process of getting to the finished stage I don't love. I'll admit to this purely being personal though. I live in King East and work downtown and I'm getting burnt out with the construction. I don't expect it to stop just for me and I do look forward to the improvements to my neighbourhood.
So I guess you're not against the development you just don't like the idea of potential dump trucks causing delays while dropping your kids off? From the render it seems like there is a large section close to the school that is surface parking which would probably be the staging area. And fredrick street which is 4 lanes at that location would be the only street effected. I will admit they seem pretty naive to think construction start 2020 and finished by 2021.

I come from the other direction when I walk my kid to school, so there really shouldn't be any disruptions that way (although, it may make it a challenge once I have to start taking grt to get to work). My concern is if the school will be able to have it's windows open without it causing noise issues in the class. The second floor of Suddaby gets very warm and in the warmer months it's actually hotter in the school than outside at times. They need to be able to have the windows open. Like I admitted to, personal reason but I wouldn't oppose redevelopment over it. I can also see some residents of Central Frederick not liking the idea of a taller and newer looking building being there as well. Many of them like the older look of the neighbourhood. 

Wasn't there opposition to the building of Tim Horton's and insisting it was built to fit into the neighbourhood? I didn't live in the area then, so I don't know how it ended up looking so much different than every other Tim Horton's in KW. Was that a neighbourhood or city opposition?


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - westwardloo - 11-05-2019

I guess that is understandable, for the two or so months of the year that it is hot during school. Although I am sure the noise would be a distraction for a day or two then it would become white noise like most things. No different than having g the windows open at Eastwood right beside the highway. Students probably don't even notice it. 

I believe it was a city requirement, but I am new to the neighborhood and a younger adult so I wouldn't know. From my experience with central fredrick the nieghbourhood is changing into a younger demographic with children. I don't want to paint with a wide brush, but millennials seem to be a little bit more open to change and development. I could be wrong there are Nimbys in every generation.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Chris - 11-06-2019

(11-05-2019, 08:51 PM)Acitta Wrote: When did the Tim Horton's close?

Around May 2019 when the new location opened in front of Frederick mall.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Spokes - 11-06-2019

(11-05-2019, 08:02 PM)BruceAshe Wrote: I'm not able to really be impartial about this one. My kid goes to Suddaby and I'll admit I hate the idea of a construction zone right next to the school just because of the lack of air conditioning. The kids will find it super cool though.

I wish it was more clear how the Rome building will be incorporated. I love that house.

What's that noise I hear?  My son asking to transfer to Suddaby??

Good infill.  Hard to tell about the finishing though without more details.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - cherrypark - 11-09-2019

Noticed some drilling for samples at the corner of Victoria and Walnut today. Along with review of the zoning in the vacant lot between the tracks and Victoria, and 196 Victoria St S changing hands, I wonder if there might be planning afoot for development in that spot.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - KevinL - 11-09-2019

Very interesting! That's a curiously shaped assemblage of property, but could produce something great for the area.