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RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 02-08-2016

Deloitte will occupy the tannery building that is being restored.

In other news, Stantec has now moved out of its Market Square office. The optimist in me wants to see this as an opportunity for some upgrades at Market Square.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - MidTowner - 02-08-2016

How many Deloitte jobs are planned in the Tannery?

I'm going to enjoy seeing their logo in downtown Kitchener. They're bigger than KPMG.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 02-08-2016

(02-08-2016, 10:49 AM)panamaniac Wrote: Deloitte will occupy the tannery building that is being restored.

That's definitely good news for the downtown, even though for Kitchener overall it's fairly neutral (Deloitte currently has a fairly large facility near Sportsworld).


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - KevinL - 02-08-2016

(02-08-2016, 10:49 AM)panamaniac Wrote: In other news, Stantec has now moved out of its Market Square office.  The optimist in me wants to see this as an opportunity for some upgrades at Market Square.

Their ground-floor retail seems to be in transition - the shoe store has closed and there is a sign up at the hair salon that they will be moving. If Dream (the landlord) is letting leases expire, we may be seeing some transformation coming here.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Owen - 02-08-2016

(02-08-2016, 11:27 AM)tomh009 Wrote:
(02-08-2016, 10:49 AM)panamaniac Wrote: Deloitte will occupy the tannery building that is being restored.

That's definitely good news for the downtown, even though for Kitchener overall it's fairly neutral (Deloitte currently has a fairly large facility near Sportsworld).

Here's the article link: http://www.therecord.com/news-story/6267669-deloitte-will-be-tenant-of-former-hide-house-/

Has anyone seen renderings? Curious whether it's entirely within the existing building, or if a building is being enlarged. We need a 195 Joseph thread!


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - KingandWeber - 02-08-2016

(02-08-2016, 11:27 AM)tomh009 Wrote:
(02-08-2016, 10:49 AM)panamaniac Wrote: Deloitte will occupy the tannery building that is being restored.

That's definitely good news for the downtown, even though for Kitchener overall it's fairly neutral (Deloitte currently has a fairly large facility near Sportsworld).

Yeah I was definitely hoping for better news than this. As you say, good for downtown, but not a new addition to the community.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Owen - 02-08-2016

(02-08-2016, 02:01 PM)KingandWeber Wrote:
(02-08-2016, 11:27 AM)tomh009 Wrote: That's definitely good news for the downtown, even though for Kitchener overall it's fairly neutral (Deloitte currently has a fairly large facility near Sportsworld).

Yeah I was definitely hoping for better news than this. As you say, good for downtown, but not a new addition to the community.

I wouldn't under-estimate this - news of actual jobs moving to the downtown is bigger news than a new condo tower. I'm very keen to see what they're doing with the site - primarily whether it's contained within the current building or if it somehow goes up. Huge amount of space on the site - can't imagine it remaining the way it is. Does anyone know if they purchased the land abutting Victoria? (Where the Beaver gas station used to be, that is now parking - at least ~10 years ago, it was not part of the tannery lands)


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Viewfromthe42 - 02-08-2016

(02-08-2016, 03:33 PM)Owen Wrote:
(02-08-2016, 03:23 PM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: Deloitte wants to show us how it can represent "innovative business solutions" to maximize potential. Their showcase of this is to take what should be one of the densest areas of the region and to develop it to have TWO usable floors. Undecided That's not the message I would want to send, especially since they're deciding how this should be built.

Tend to agree - however, Oak st. is called out as an 'established neighborhood' in the city policy documents and developments abutting it need to be sensitive (compatible) with that.

This is why I bring up the consequence of having 1/3 of Kitchener as a heritage property or neighbourhood; the reach, effect, and consequence of that is far larger than just the 1/3 of the core that's untouchable.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - KingandWeber - 02-08-2016

(02-08-2016, 02:07 PM)Owen Wrote:
(02-08-2016, 02:01 PM)KingandWeber Wrote: Yeah I was definitely hoping for better news than this. As you say, good for downtown, but not a new addition to the community.

I wouldn't under-estimate this - news of actual jobs moving to the downtown is bigger news than a new condo tower.  I'm very keen to see what they're doing with the site - primarily whether it's contained within the current building or if it somehow goes up.  Huge amount of space on the site - can't imagine it remaining the way it is.  Does anyone know if they purchased the land abutting Victoria? (Where the Beaver gas station used to be, that is now parking - at least ~10 years ago,  it was not part of the tannery lands)

I'm not underestimating the impact. I think it will be significant for downtown. I am just a little disappointed considering the hype ("Organization with a global brand coming to Downtown Kitchener") seemed to imply a *new* employer coming to the Region. I guess I was expecting something like the Shopify announcement and instead we got a local relocation announcement with the chance of some modest employment expansion.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Owen - 02-08-2016

(02-08-2016, 03:58 PM)KingandWeber Wrote:
(02-08-2016, 02:07 PM)Owen Wrote: I wouldn't under-estimate this - news of actual jobs moving to the downtown is bigger news than a new condo tower.  I'm very keen to see what they're doing with the site - primarily whether it's contained within the current building or if it somehow goes up.  Huge amount of space on the site - can't imagine it remaining the way it is.  Does anyone know if they purchased the land abutting Victoria? (Where the Beaver gas station used to be, that is now parking - at least ~10 years ago,  it was not part of the tannery lands)

I'm not underestimating the impact. I think it will be significant for downtown. I am just a little disappointed considering the hype ("Organization with a global brand coming to Downtown Kitchener") seemed to imply a *new* employer coming to the Region. I guess I was expecting something like the Shopify announcement and instead we got a local relocation announcement with the chance of some modest employment expansion.

Fair enough - it could have been something more exciting - but even though it is only modest employment expansion for the region (170 up to 200), the prospect of 200 employees moving to the downtown long term (15 yr lease) from such a stable company gives me a great deal of hope for the feasibility of all the condo development in the works - far more stable than startup employment.  A friend of mine works at the current Deloitte location and he has a house in the suburbs off 401 on highway 33 - I'm sure a lot of employees like him will consider moving to the downtown as presently he's going to be in for almost 2x the commute.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - jgsz - 02-08-2016

(02-05-2016, 01:24 PM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: And in other news...


I was really excited about what this 'big development' with a 'global brand' was going to be.  I now feel that Terry Pender's tweet was misleading.  Or, perhaps I read too much into it.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 02-08-2016

It is a global brand. And it's very nice that the building will be developed and occupied. But, yes, the tweet made it sound even bigger.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Lens - 02-09-2016

Notice that the main tannery building has improvements to its street level and a large rooftop space in the second photo.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Owen - 02-09-2016

(02-08-2016, 10:07 PM)notmyfriends Wrote: I think it will be like the attached pictures - they were included in the  media release from Allied REIT today:

http://alliedreit.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2016/02/20160208_Deloitte-195-Joseph-St-Media-Release-01-08-2016.pdf

Nice!! I guess those original renderings are what's going ahead - notwithstanding missed opportunity to go bigger, I think it looks fantastic and it's great to see development stretching west (south?) along Victoria.


RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Lens - 02-12-2016

Looks like Schreiters is selling their building for conversion: https://www.realtor.ca/Commercial/Retail/16411483/27-GAUKEL-Street-Kitchener-Ontario-N2G1Y6