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High-Speed Rail (HSR) - Toronto/Pearson/Kitchener/London
(10-24-2017, 09:24 AM)urbd Wrote: D'Amato's very pessimistic view of yesterday's announcements:

https://www.therecord.com/opinion-story/...fake-news/

... I do agree with some of it.

I disagree with the further abuse of the term "fake news".

That being said, it was a bit of a disappointing announcement, but I also didn't see it hyped all that much.

@chutten  I agree, I have a hard time seeing infra getting disrupted.  That takes orders of magnitude more money and effort.  Uber can come and go in an a year, infra you build is a decades long proposal.  Not only is it difficult, it's also risky, if hyperloop has some unintended consequences (like the freeways did) it would be good to know about them before deploying a billion lane KMs or so.
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D'Amato's piece is more pot-shots at Wynne and her government in general than HSR specifically. That's just the headline.
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(10-24-2017, 09:58 AM)danbrotherston Wrote:
(10-24-2017, 09:24 AM)urbd Wrote: D'Amato's very pessimistic view of yesterday's announcements:

https://www.therecord.com/opinion-story/...fake-news/

... I do agree with some of it.

I disagree with the further abuse of the term "fake news".

That being said, it was a bit of a disappointing announcement, but I also didn't see it hyped all that much.

@chutten  I agree, I have a hard time seeing infra getting disrupted.  That takes orders of magnitude more money and effort.  Uber can come and go in an a year, infra you build is a decades long proposal.  Not only is it difficult, it's also risky, if hyperloop has some unintended consequences (like the freeways did) it would be good to know about them before deploying a billion lane KMs or so.
This was non-news and certainly didn't warrant a press release - it could have waited until she had actually appointed folks to the advisory board.
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I don't have a problem with press releases.  More is better, imo.

The media doesn't have to cover them.

Edit: But I certainly agree with the opinion that HSR is a long way away and there's not much point taking it seriously yet.
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(12-19-2017, 01:40 AM)BrianT Wrote: The studying continues..... http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/high-...dered.html

An Environmental Assessment is a whole different ball game than a feasibility study.
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The call is for drawing up the terms of reference for an eventual EA. Progress of a sort ....
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(12-19-2017, 09:28 AM)trainspotter139 Wrote:
(12-19-2017, 01:40 AM)BrianT Wrote: The studying continues..... http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/high-...dered.html

An Environmental Assessment is a whole different ball game than a feasibility study.

As far as I'm concerned, it's just another study until they get to 30% design.
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(12-20-2017, 07:05 AM)BrianT Wrote:
(12-19-2017, 04:18 PM)Markster Wrote: As far as I'm concerned, it's just another study until they get to 30% design.

Yeah it's not an environmental assessment yet. It's just a study to make up the terms of reference for the EA. They can still delay it and call it off. There is an election approaching.

With any luck, it will figure in both partys' campaign platforms.  Not that that's a guarantee ....
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">? <a href="https://t.co/HcAOvSBFgK">pic.twitter.com/HcAOvSBFgK</a></p>&mdash; ? Iain Hendry ? (@Canardiain) <a href="https://twitter.com/Canardiain/status/952242155338321920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2018</a></blockquote>

Almost as bad as the "Say No To Wind Turbines! Think of the Children!" crowd.
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Zooming in, I see this is just outside New Hamburg on 7/8. They are planning to have the high-speed track bypass that town (and Stratford and St. Mary's) and go to London more direct. I suppose whoever is behind the installation of this sign is worrying about losing property to the new right of way?
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The location is here:

https://goo.gl/maps/Zo2q6tygeVq

I posted the "G-rated" picture. I had a not-so-nice one I took as well. Tongue
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Oxford County wants high speed rail alternative in southwestern Ontario

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-...-1.4505926
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Current trains would do far better than today without level crossings. And with more frequent train service it would be much better, albeit not high-speed rail. But London wants these trains to do the milk run? That would negate all the level crossing improvements.
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You can still have a "milk run" (lots of stops) and have HSR. This is the concept the Shinkansen pioneered - the secret being in the acceleration of the train.

The penalty for more stops is thus reduced.
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(01-28-2018, 09:28 PM)Canard Wrote: You can still have a "milk run" (lots of stops) and have HSR.  This is the concept the Shinkansen pioneered - the secret being in the acceleration of the train.

The penalty for more stops is thus reduced.

The UK also frequently mixes "milk run" and high(er)-speed service.
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