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ION - Waterloo Region's Light Rail Transit
It appears that they will be pouring the platform for the Grand River Hospital station soon, all of the forms are now in place.
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A number of wood hydro poles have appeared right in the middle of sidewalks along king from John through willis, are they temporary or permeant? I have a picture I can post later if need be.
Everyone move to the back of the bus and we all get home faster.
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I hope that is temporary, that would be terrible.
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If they are wooden they are likely temporary, especially if it's a sidewalk location.
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Actually in the middle of the sidewalk? If they are extra-wide sidewalks and poles were set off to one side, that would be one thing. If the sidewalks aren’t much wider than usual, or the poles are literally in the middle, that’s very bad.
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We're talking "king from John through willis", which includes the part that is going to be under construction for the next several months. It seems like temporary poles to me.
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(04-19-2016, 02:08 PM)KevinL Wrote: If they are wooden they are likely temporary, especially if it's a sidewalk location.

I don't see why the material matters, but I think it is unlikely that poles would be left in the sidewalk. It doesn't seem very accessible otherwise.
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(04-19-2016, 02:28 PM)timc Wrote:
(04-19-2016, 02:08 PM)KevinL Wrote: If they are wooden they are likely temporary, especially if it's a sidewalk location.

I don't see why the material matters, but I think it is unlikely that poles would be left in the sidewalk. It doesn't seem very accessible otherwise.

Permanent poles tend to be post-tensioned concrete or aluminum.
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@timc - materials matter, because wood poles look crappy. Concrete or steel poles look nice.
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(04-19-2016, 02:42 PM)Canard Wrote: @timc - materials matter, because wood poles look crappy. Concrete or steel poles look nice.

Be that as it may, the majority of hydro poles in Waterloo are wooden.
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Well, we have a nice chance now to fix things up and make it better. Smile I also hope there will be some sharing of the catenary poles with utilities, as I've seen in other parts of the world. It takes a bit more paperwork and behind-the-scenes handshaking, but it's absolutely possible, and helps clean up the urban landscape.
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(04-19-2016, 03:04 PM)Canard Wrote: Well, we have a nice chance now to fix things up and make it better. Smile I also hope there will be some sharing of the catenary poles with utilities, as I've seen in other parts of the world. It takes a bit more paperwork and behind-the-scenes handshaking, but it's absolutely possible, and helps clean up the urban landscape.

There aren't enough keystrokes for me to laugh at this happening. Could or should it happen? Yes.

Will it? Not a chance in our region.
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No? I actually take the temporary wooden poles as a sign that it is happening. If they were not going to merge services onto single posts, wouldn't they be placing permanent additional posts, not temporary ones? The temporary ones are probably supporting services that could get moved over onto the OCS poles.
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(04-19-2016, 04:46 PM)Canard Wrote: No? I actually take the temporary wooden poles as a sign that it is happening. If they were not going to merge services onto single posts, wouldn't they be placing permanent additional posts, not temporary ones? The temporary ones are probably supporting services that could get moved over onto the OCS poles.

The trend I've been seeing is temporary poles going up outside the zone of work to allow everything to proceed (excavation through installation), then the new permanent poles go in, often in a place that had been dug up earlier in the process.
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What is the reasoning for thinking that wooden poles are temporary? I know Waterloo North Hydro definitely still uses wooden poles in new permanent installations, I can see some from my office. Is Kitchener different? I don't really think wood vs concrete makes much of a difference aesthetically.
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