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Grand River Transit
(06-21-2017, 01:52 PM)Markster Wrote:
(06-21-2017, 01:34 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: Anyone else find it ironic that the iXpress 200 takes about 50% longer to go from Conestoga Mall to DTK than the #7 milk-run.  Now, yes, the 7 is a much more direct route, but it's also the same time as the #6 which also goes far out of the way.

Yeah, the construction detours really killed the 200s schedule. It's always been faster to take the 7C from downtown than the 200, but it's gotten much worse.

Route 6 has always been a bit of a secret.  It's not excessively out of the way, and it runs on much faster roads, and makes fewer stops due to fewer passengers.  If you're going between downtown and Conestoga mall, it's actually a very sane choice!  If it's bad weather, it's almost certainly going to be more reliable than the 7.

Yes, although ironically, a friend of mine says he doesn't like the 6 because it's like a milk run.
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So there's been a change to the design of paper schedules (again!) - Last year they changed from having a flush-to-the-corners design to one with a bit more free space, presumably to improve readability, but they still maintained an 'abstracted' map design - a thematic map with just the roads relevant to the route, rectified and straightened, as they've had fro the last 5-7 years or so.

But now they've started to introduce accurate maps - actual geographically correct route maps, no abstraction allowed.

And the absurd part is, all of these designs are currently in use to some degree or another, depending on the specific route - I pulled these fresh off the rack at Charles Street. Yikes.

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(9 hours ago)KevinL Wrote: So there's been a change to the design of paper schedules (again!) - Last year they changed from having a flush-to-the-corners design to one with a bit more free space, presumably to improve readability, but they still maintained an 'abstracted' map design - a thematic map with just the roads relevant to the route, rectified and straightened, as they've had fro the last 5-7 years or so.

But now they've started to introduce accurate maps - actual geographically correct route maps, no abstraction allowed.

And the absurd part is, all of these designs are currently in use to some degree or another, depending on the specific route - I pulled these fresh off the rack at Charles Street. Yikes.

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I would say that they just have old prints lying around, but clearly not the case since the design is quite old by now.

I actually prefer the edge to edge design, but the map depends on what I'm looking for.  In some context and on some routes the simplified map is better, on others the geographically one is the best.
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Good.

The simplified maps are atrocious and in a number of instances, inaccurate. The route 22 map for instance suggests that Activa becomes David Bergey, and Rittenhouse is nonexistent.
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I much prefer the accurate maps and hope those become the standard again.
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GRT has installed new route signs at Fairview Park Mall. Odd, since they'll
be moving in less than a year.
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RE: Maps Making text follow a stroke is not a hard thing to do in any graphics program. Also, if you're meant to rotate the map to orient yourself north, why wouldn't you orient all the labels that way? The Conestoga Parkway label is upside-down.
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(8 hours ago)D40LF Wrote: Good.

The simplified maps are atrocious and in a number of instances, inaccurate. The route 22 map for instance suggests that Activa becomes David Bergey, and Rittenhouse is nonexistent.

Which is weird, since the whole point of simplified maps as far as I am concerned is the ability to clearly show every feature of the route. For example, a route like the 7 which goes along King for a very long distance, with some complexity downtown and near Fairview, can have the long straight part shortened and the rest given sufficient space to see all the turns. If they omit parts, then what’s the point?

Several years ago they used to have large geographically-accurate maps which really were just extracts from a city map, showing every street (albeit emphasizing and labelling only the major streets), with stop locations indicated right on the map very accurately as little dots labelled with the stop number. These new maps look like sort of a half-way where it’s a small map but to scale. I’ll be interested to see if there are any routes where this leads to strange results.
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