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Uptown Public Realm Strategy
#1
I'm not sure I agree with converting the entire Pumping Station property on William St. into a park.
There are already a number of small parks in the area.
There is so little developable land in the Uptown core and this is a prime location right across the street from City Hall.

See here:

https://www.therecord.com/news-story/8923570-waterloo-ponders-ways-to-make-its-uptown-more-welcoming/

https://www.waterloo.ca/en/contentresour...ouncil.pdf


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#2
(09-25-2018, 10:56 AM)Tony_Plow Wrote: I'm not sure I agree with converting the entire Pumping Station property on William St. into a park.
There are already a number of small parks in the area.
There is so little developable land in the Uptown core and this is a prime location right across the street from City Hall.

See here:

https://www.therecord.com/news-story/8923570-waterloo-ponders-ways-to-make-its-uptown-more-welcoming/

https://www.waterloo.ca/en/contentresour...ouncil.pdf

The piece of land immediately to the right of the proposed part is owned by the City and development is expected to happen there.
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#3
It's funny that the proposal is talking about updating infrastructure that was literally just built, like putting bike lanes on King Street South between Allen & Uptown, or improving the connection between trails at Erb & Caroline.
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#4
(09-25-2018, 10:56 AM)Tony_Plow Wrote: I'm not sure I agree with converting the entire Pumping Station property on William St. into a park.
There are already a number of small parks in the area.
There is so little developable land in the Uptown core and this is a prime location right across the street from City Hall.

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I would tend to see this as a big reason in favour of public space at that location.
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#5
(09-25-2018, 10:56 AM)Tony_Plow Wrote: I'm not sure I agree with converting the entire Pumping Station property on William St. into a park.
There are already a number of small parks in the area.
There is so little developable land in the Uptown core and this is a prime location right across the street from City Hall.

On the other hand, there's a lot of development substantially increasing the number of people living and working in this area, most of it without meaningful open space on site. Not increasing the amount of public open space would be doing a disservice to the future residents.
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(09-26-2018, 03:19 PM)mpd618 Wrote:
(09-25-2018, 10:56 AM)Tony_Plow Wrote: I'm not sure I agree with converting the entire Pumping Station property on William St. into a park.
There are already a number of small parks in the area.
There is so little developable land in the Uptown core and this is a prime location right across the street from City Hall.

On the other hand, there's a lot of development substantially increasing the number of people living and working in this area, most of it without meaningful open space on site. Not increasing the amount of public open space would be doing a disservice to the future residents.

I guess it all depends how they're planning to develop the entire area over by city hall.  I wonder if city hall itself and/or the surrounding city owned parking lots will be redeveloped in the next while.  As mentioned above, they will likely add a small condo/apartment building at the corner of William and Herbert beside the proposed Civic Common space.  Is it the City's intention to sell off their surface parking lots over time?  I recall hearing that they had a long term plan (discussed in the last 2-3 years) to add another parking garage Uptown.

If you look at the draft Uptown Public Realm Strategy, it looks like they want to link the Caroline LRT stop to the Cenotaph by adding a tree canopy and other pedestrian friendly elements along Willis Way.
The Cenotaph is in a terrible location - surrounded by parking lots.  Honestly, I didn't even know the Cenotaph existed until I saw this proposal.
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(09-26-2018, 03:38 PM)Tony_Plow Wrote: If you look at the draft Uptown Public Realm Strategy, it looks like they want to link the Caroline LRT stop to the Cenotaph by adding a tree canopy and other pedestrian friendly elements along Willis Way.
The Cenotaph is in a terrible location - surrounded by parking lots.  Honestly, I didn't even know the Cenotaph existed until I saw this proposal.

Is it linking to the cenotaph, or linking to the Laurel and Spurline Trails?
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(09-26-2018, 05:29 PM)timc Wrote:
(09-26-2018, 03:38 PM)Tony_Plow Wrote: If you look at the draft Uptown Public Realm Strategy, it looks like they want to link the Caroline LRT stop to the Cenotaph by adding a tree canopy and other pedestrian friendly elements along Willis Way.
The Cenotaph is in a terrible location - surrounded by parking lots.  Honestly, I didn't even know the Cenotaph existed until I saw this proposal.

Is it linking to the cenotaph, or linking to the Laurel and Spurline Trails?

I think the Cenotaph park is part of the Laurel Trail.  The best image of the overall plan is on page 22 of the Report - https://www.waterloo.ca/en/contentresour...ouncil.pdf

I really like the idea of enhancing Laurel Trail in the Uptown area - the updates will provide a better link between Uptown and Waterloo Park.
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#9
I really like the idea of the Laurel Creek Greenway. I have always wanted to see a trail/park created a long the length of Laurel Creek.

I also like the idea of creating a park on the pumping station lands.
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(09-26-2018, 02:09 PM)panamaniac Wrote:
(09-25-2018, 10:56 AM)Tony_Plow Wrote: I'm not sure I agree with converting the entire Pumping Station property on William St. into a park.
There are already a number of small parks in the area.
There is so little developable land in the Uptown core and this is a prime location right across the street from City Hall.

....

I would tend to see this as a big reason in favour of public space at that location.

Why?

People go to parks because of the equipment in the park, not because it is close to city hall. The only people who go to city hall go there to pay property taxes or set up their utility account.
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