08-16-2017, 08:32 AM
I know the last one linked was altered, but even the original was extreme.
ION - Waterloo Region's Light Rail Transit
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08-16-2017, 08:32 AM
I know the last one linked was altered, but even the original was extreme.
08-16-2017, 09:02 AM
Yes; to clarify, my original photo is real. Then, Jesse slightly modified it, which I thought was hilarious. Sorry for the confusion!
08-16-2017, 10:36 AM
It wouldn't look so bad if the backs of the lights were painted black or the same grey as the poles -- then you'd only see half of them.
...K
08-16-2017, 10:50 AM
(08-12-2017, 10:23 PM)Canard Wrote: 1/3 - Saturday, August 12, 2017King has 1 thru lane and a left turn lane - why are 4 traffic lights needed for this (2 for the thru lane and 2 for the left turn lane). The clutter is horrible - half the lights should go
08-16-2017, 11:19 AM
Current practice is to install redundant traffic lights, in case one malfunctions.
Is the danger posed by a failed signal higher than the danger posed by confusing signals? Debatable.
08-16-2017, 12:13 PM
(08-16-2017, 11:19 AM)Markster Wrote: Current practice is to install redundant traffic lights, in case one malfunctions. What bugs me is why the red left turn signal isn't an arrow! Having the lights that close together is confusing, and requires signage which shouldn't be required if the design made sense.
08-16-2017, 01:09 PM
Bells, gates to be activated at LRT rail crossings - CTV Kitchener
08-16-2017, 02:47 PM
(08-16-2017, 11:19 AM)Markster Wrote: Current practice is to install redundant traffic lights, in case one malfunctions. Thanks for the explanation. I think 2 lights each with an arrow for the left turn lane would be sufficient and would meet the redundancy requirement. The current configuration is a total eyesore.
08-16-2017, 03:47 PM
(08-16-2017, 02:47 PM)NotStan Wrote:(08-16-2017, 11:19 AM)Markster Wrote: Current practice is to install redundant traffic lights, in case one malfunctions. I think the separate light is required for the fully protected left turn, which basically means you cannot turn left unless you have the green arrow. This is necessary because the trains will be proceeding through those intersections, and wouldn't be able to if cars were waiting to turn left. But I agree the forest of lights is really excessive.
08-16-2017, 04:40 PM
You could get by with a 4-element light with straight and left arrows at the bottom. Would mean that cars turning right had to stop before going, unless you went to 5-element lights, but might not be the worst for pedestrian areas, assuming any drivers understood the effect of a 4-element light in that scenario.
I'm also surprised that with the advent of LEDs, we don't have LED lights capable of showing pure green (for any movement allowed), or only an arrow or multi-arrow (for more limited movements allowed).
08-16-2017, 06:24 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-16-2017, 06:24 PM by danbrotherston.)
(08-16-2017, 04:40 PM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: You could get by with a 4-element light with straight and left arrows at the bottom. Would mean that cars turning right had to stop before going, unless you went to 5-element lights, but might not be the worst for pedestrian areas, assuming any drivers understood the effect of a 4-element light in that scenario. I am quite sure that is all possible technically, and with LEDs every type of shape could be shown. I am not sure that such a thing is permitted under the HTA and associated guides. But I'm not a policy expert, I am just assuming as I have never seen a fully protected left turn without a dedicated left turn signal. (08-16-2017, 02:47 PM)NotStan Wrote: Thanks for the explanation. I think 2 lights each with an arrow for the left turn lane would be sufficient and would meet the redundancy requirement. The current configuration is a total eyesore. Lol, OK, I didn't want to be the first one to say it either. The clutter of all these lights and poles is far from appealing (in my humble opinion). Of course the safety aspect takes precedence (over personal opinion) but I can see how a lot of people would be confused depending which light(s) they are concentrating on.
A couple of fun things:
...Have an eye out this afternoon for the Planing and Works agenda.
08-18-2017, 09:12 AM
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