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Cycling in Waterloo Region
#21
(11-12-2014, 10:53 AM)zanate Wrote: it will be at least what is part of Waterloop
That name, while cute, has other connotations, e.g. Waterloop.
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#22
I see that the City of Waterloo has secured an injunction to prevent protesters from interfering with the paving of the trail, which is now supposed to happen tomorrow. Overkill, perhaps?
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#23
(11-12-2014, 06:09 PM)panamaniac Wrote: I see that the City of Waterloo has secured an injunction to prevent protesters from interfering with the paving of the trail, which is now supposed to happen tomorrow.  Overkill, perhaps?

Sounds worth it to me, if one believes the $10k cost-of-delay figure.

Should the protesters be protesting? I don't think they're right on the merits of the case, so I'd say no.
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#24
Worth it to me too at that price tag.
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#25
(11-12-2014, 06:09 PM)panamaniac Wrote: I see that the City of Waterloo has secured an injunction to prevent protesters from interfering with the paving of the trail, which is now supposed to happen tomorrow.  Overkill, perhaps?

Not overkill, given that they have shown they would physically prevent the work from continuing otherwise.
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#26
I liked this piece on cycling and the "bikes vs cars" debate:

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/9-things-dr...rs-debate/

Quote:So, before the next big wave of internet arguing, I propose we retire a few overused and underwhelming opinions in the bikes vs. cars debate. Though I drive and bike, my allegiances skew toward cyclists (feel free to scroll straight the comments and yell at me). But beyond my personal judgments lie a great many studies and data showing most of the pro-motorist arguments just don’t hold up. I know it’s hard to be wrong, especially on the internet, but here are a few sentences I hope we see less of in the future.
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#27
How awesome would it be to have a few bicycles paths in the region like this?

Solar-Powered Glowing Bike Path
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#28
(11-12-2014, 06:09 PM)panamaniac Wrote: I see that the City of Waterloo has secured an injunction to prevent protesters from interfering with the paving of the trail, which is now supposed to happen tomorrow.  Overkill, perhaps?

On the up side, the City is suggesting that it should review it's public consultation procedures.

On a related note, does anyone know what the relative lifespan of an asphalt path to a properly compacted stone dust path is?  Asphalt looks great for the first five years or so; is passable for the next five or so; and then pretty awful after that.  I'd hate to see the City go to the expense of paving a path only to have to return sooner than expected to repair it.  If this trail is also to be a City vehicle access point, that could put additional stress on the surface.
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#29
(11-14-2014, 12:33 PM)nms Wrote: does anyone know what the relative lifespan of an asphalt path

This guy suggests that asphalt won't address the erosion issues: Hillside Park plan doesn’t address cycling needs

Quote:The city argues the paving is necessary to address erosion problems created by the regular flooding of the park during heavy rains. Their thinking is that by grading the path at an angle in the areas prone to flooding, the water will pass over the path and continue into Laurel Creek.

The problem with this as an "engineered solution'" is that the edge of any paving is a lip and the volume and speed of the water that spills over the Forwell Creek will likely wash under as well as over the asphalt.

There were at least five such flooding events in the park last summer. I expect the city will soon find this is a very expensive stretch of path if it plans to maintain it.
If he's right about this then sections of pavement are destined to wash away or collapse long before the asphalt deteriorates naturally.

He also makes other negative comments about the wisdom of paving this trail including environmental harm and safety.
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#30
I don't buy it, starting from the scary quotes on engineered solution and moving on to the ridiculous: The radiant heat that will be produced by the paving will cause dieback of the old growth forest that remains in the park.
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