Hey Guest,
Welcome, Join our awesome community where you can discuss on various topics
or Create an Account


Welcome Guest! In order to take advantage of all the great features that Waterloo Region Connected has to offer, including participating in the lively discussions below, you're going to have to register. The good news is that it'll take less than a minute and you can get started enjoying Waterloo Region's best online community right away. Click here to get started.

Dear WRConnected Users: WOW! Our fourth "birthday"! We've grown so much over the past four years, and much of that is because of you, the amazing WRConnected Users. But like any other website, there are costs associated with running it. As some of you may already know, we accept donations. Some of you have made donations (thank you!). This helps cover some of the background costs associated with running this site. If every user were to donate $1 we would more than cover our yearly expenses. If WRConnected is useful to you, take a minute and help keep it online for another year. Any donation is helpful. Thank you.

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Mayfair Hotel | 6 fl | Proposed
#61
(04-28-2015, 08:48 AM)tomh009 Wrote:
(04-27-2015, 10:07 PM)panamaniac Wrote: That is correct (the two buildings share a common wall, I believe).  Some heritage elements of the six storey tower are to be saved as well. 

What heritage elements does the "tower" extension have?  They are not immediately obvious to me, just from looking at the photos.

(I don't think there can have been much of an approval process back when Mayfair got the permit to add those storeys ...)

I'm not able to pull up the original notice of intention to designate, but if I recall correctly, it has to do with the art deco capitals of the pilasters, the entablature and the details of the windows.  Some examples of those elements are supposed to be salvaged as part of the demolition, iirc.
Reply
#62
(04-28-2015, 09:01 AM)panamaniac Wrote:
(04-28-2015, 08:48 AM)tomh009 Wrote: What heritage elements does the "tower" extension have?  They are not immediately obvious to me, just from looking at the photos.

(I don't think there can have been much of an approval process back when Mayfair got the permit to add those storeys ...)

I'm not able to pull up the original notice of intention to designate, but if I recall correctly, it has to do with the art deco capitals of the pilasters, the entablature and the details of the windows.  Some examples of those elements are supposed to be salvaged as part of the demolition, iirc.

Thanks.  I do see that now, looking closely.  It's pretty minimal, though.  The lower floors are far more interesting.
Reply
#63
Frank Etherington was out at King and Young today checking out the Mayfair. Getting ready, I imagine, for an effort on Monday to get City Council to reverse its decision to revoke the intention to designate and instead seek advice from a heritage preservation expert on whether the building can be saved. I think it is very unlikely that the Council would reverse the decision they took at the last meeting, where the matter was discussed extensively.
Reply
#64
They would need a 2/3 vote to reverse it. Don't see that happening.

Time to move on folks
Reply
#65
That's what I think, although I'd still love to see them save enough brick to do a partial façade reconstruction. I think the preservation frustration stems in part from the fact that this "too dangerous to enter" building is still standing three weeks after the damage was done. I notice as well that there has been a water leak on Young Street ever since the burst pipe connection was repaired - the saturated soil can't be doing much for the stability of the foundation, although I suppose it can't be fixed if the building is in danger of falling into the street.
Reply
#66
It's getting more complicated. Now the Record is reporting that the structural integrity of the neighbouring building (156-158 King W) may be threatened by demolition of the Mayfair and that owner Bernie Nimer is therefore seeking to demolish the entire site. Ouch!

http://www.therecord.com/news-story/5609...-building/
Reply
#67
(05-08-2015, 01:32 PM)panamaniac Wrote: That's what I think, although I'd still love to see them save enough brick to do a partial façade reconstruction.

Now, they could do a facade reconstruction even with new brick ... although that's not likely to be in the plans.
Reply
#68
(05-08-2015, 08:58 PM)tomh009 Wrote: Now, they could do a facade reconstruction even with new brick ... although that's not likely to be in the plans.

It ain't that pretty. All things being equal I'd rather they save it, but there is no need to spare every effort to save this building.
Reply
#69
No, I couldn't imagine a reconstruction using new materials. Even a rebuilt façade using the original brickwork would be pretty shaky in heritage terms. I do think the 1906 brickwork up to the third for cornice is very attractive, however. It will be a shame to lose it all and even worse if yet another King St lot sits barren for years to come.
Reply
#70
(05-08-2015, 04:12 PM)panamaniac Wrote: It's getting more complicated.  Now the Record is reporting that the structural integrity of the neighbouring building (156-158 King W) may be threatened by demolition of the Mayfair and that owner Bernie Nimer is therefore seeking to demolish the entire site.  Ouch!

http://www.therecord.com/news-story/5609...-building/

Is that the 3 storey part of the Mayfair, or the building next to it that used to house Casablanca Books?
Reply
#71
(05-09-2015, 08:58 AM)Spokes Wrote:
(05-08-2015, 04:12 PM)panamaniac Wrote: It's getting more complicated.  Now the Record is reporting that the structural integrity of the neighbouring building (156-158 King W) may be threatened by demolition of the Mayfair and that owner Bernie Nimer is therefore seeking to demolish the entire site.  Ouch!

http://www.therecord.com/news-story/5609...-building/

Is that the 3 storey part of the Mayfair, or the building next to it that used to house Casablanca Books?

The three storey part is the old hardware store - it certainly looks like it was built to be part of the Mayfair, but it is apparently a separate building with a common wall.  The Casablanca building (Weber Chambers) is the next one to the east - it seems to have some interior renovations going on but is not, as far as I know, owned by Bernie Nimer as the other two buildings are.
Reply
#72
That makes sense, thanks for the clarification.

I'd always heard it referred to as two separate buildings, but since they look to be the same, I always grouped them together.
Reply
#73
(05-08-2015, 09:35 PM)panamaniac Wrote: No, I couldn't imagine a reconstruction using new materials.  Even a rebuilt façade using the original brickwork would be pretty shaky in heritage terms.  I do think the 1906 brickwork up to the third for cornice is very attractive, however.   It will be a shame to lose it all and even worse if yet another King St lot sits barren for years to come.

Nobody wants to see another parking lot, I agree.  Hopefully Nimer has plans to build rather than let it sit empty, though.
Reply
#74
What I don't understand is that the original Bauers factory stood on three story tall or so stilts for 2-3yrs but they can't save the facade of the Mayfair and now possibly 156-158 during demo/reconstruction
Reply
#75
Say goodbye to both buildings... http://www.kitchener.ca/en/livinginkitch...upancy.pdf

I don't understand why the Mayfair can't be demolished FIRST and then the other building re-evaluated. This whole thing makes me sick/upset/angry/etc.
Reply


Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)

About Waterloo Region Connected

Launched in August 2014, Waterloo Region Connected is an online community that brings together all the things that make Waterloo Region great. Waterloo Region Connected provides user-driven content fueled by a lively discussion forum covering topics like urban development, transportation projects, heritage issues, businesses and other issues of interest to those in Kitchener, Waterloo, Cambridge and the four Townships - North Dumfries, Wellesley, Wilmot, and Woolwich.

              User Links

              Advertise