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SIXO Midtown | 28 + 20? + 12? + ? fl | Proposed
(01-23-2017, 12:41 PM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: You laugh, but I've been amazed at how many ORNGE helicopters actually wind up landing right in this lot. No idea why, but it's a regular occurrence.

The landing pad for GRH is at the Ontario Seed Property (Just behind this one).

Coke
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(01-23-2017, 12:41 PM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: You laugh, but I've been amazed at how many ORNGE helicopters actually wind up landing right in this lot. No idea why, but it's a regular occurrence.

The helipad is in the OSC lot right behind. Unless you're saying they mistakenly land in the King's Crossing parking lot, which would be terrifying, since it's full of lamp posts.
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(01-23-2017, 07:17 AM)timio Wrote: No catenary in the rendering.  Time to complain that it's not an accurate depiction and assume they have no credibility.  ... [stare]

Also interesting that there is a traffic signal plopped down mid-block.
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When I first glanced at this project I thought the heights of the buildings were scaled back.  I was disappointed but then realized I was looking at the proposed 'transit hub' which looks very similar to the original render.   I assume the same architectural firm drew both.   Of course, if the transit hub will look like the render I'd  be pleased.
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(01-23-2017, 01:09 PM)timc Wrote: Also interesting that there is a traffic signal plopped down mid-block.

Probably for the traffic coming out of the development (guessing) or maybe a crosswalk.
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Hard not to get really excited about this area.
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So this is 2.4 hectares which the article references as being one of the largest development plots.  By comparison, does anyone remember how big City Center was?
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(01-23-2017, 01:44 PM)Spokes Wrote: So this is 2.4 hectares which the article references as being one of the largest development plots.  By comparison, does anyone remember how big City Center was?

0.95 ha, so substantially smaller.  2.4 ha really is quite big for a downtown property.  

The Schneider's property is almost 8 ha but then it's not quite downtown.
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I am also liking the artist's concept of the transit hub.
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(01-23-2017, 02:15 PM)tomh009 Wrote:
(01-23-2017, 01:44 PM)Spokes Wrote: So this is 2.4 hectares which the article references as being one of the largest development plots.  By comparison, does anyone remember how big City Center was?

0.95 ha, so substantially smaller.  2.4 ha really is quite big for a downtown property.  

The Schneider's property is almost 8 ha but then it's not quite downtown.

And for comparison the Victoria Commons development was 6.47 hectares.
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I'm definitely filled with some reservations. My mind hears "urban village" and all I can think of is...right across the street. Google, where a great deal of excellent work went into their office, but it is indeed an office, and unless you work there, none of its awesomeness means bunk to you. I'm afraid that "urban village" means great things for those who live there, who, if online materials are to be trusted, will be GTA-owned bulk-bought units, but will be closed off and back turned towards the rest of the city. That, I can't properly abide by.
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(01-24-2017, 09:59 AM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: I'm definitely filled with some reservations. My mind hears "urban village" and all I can think of is...right across the street. Google, where a great deal of excellent work went into their office, but it is indeed an office, and unless you work there, none of its awesomeness means bunk to you. I'm afraid that "urban village" means great things for those who live there, who, if online materials are to be trusted, will be GTA-owned bulk-bought units, but will be closed off and back turned towards the rest of the city. That, I can't properly abide by.

Indeed, isn't that often a problem when there's one developer who is building everything in a development?
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I disagree that the Breithaupt Block development only benefits those who work there. I live in the neighbourhood, and the uplift (I don’t mean economic- I have no way of knowing about that) is notable. New types of people are coming to the neighbourhood, either to visit or to live. I think that’s a good thing. I think it’s good to have the building being used, period, and having it done so attractively is a plus (maybe in a small way) to everyone who walks by. I do wonder what happened to the rumours of a Charcoal restaurant moving in there, though…

That having been said, your point about the “urban village” at risk of being inward-facing is a very valid one. We should push for a development that will create a more active King Street with space for amenities that can serve everyone, not just residents.
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I am talking about benefitting in the outward-facing and usable way. I think it's a benefit to have Communitech, Thalmic, the school of Pharmacy, Netsuite downtown, but were all of downtown to be those kinds of places, it would actually be a terrible office park. Google might indeed be good at bringing new people into the neighbourhood, but a closed-off building like that is not one we want to be replicated en masse in an urban area, it's actually quite horrible when done repeatedly.
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(01-23-2017, 11:10 PM)Chris Wrote:
(01-23-2017, 02:15 PM)tomh009 Wrote: 0.95 ha, so substantially smaller.  2.4 ha really is quite big for a downtown property.  

The Schneider's property is almost 8 ha but then it's not quite downtown.

And for comparison the Victoria Commons development was 6.47 hectares.

Thanks for the reference points!
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