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General Politics Discussion
(07-03-2018, 08:07 PM)SammyOES2 Wrote: Jeffster, could you provide a quote from that article that says what you said?  Because it seems to me to say the opposite of what you claimed.  The immigration numbers are down and not up like you said.

And, I’m not really sure how you can claim that separating children in specific exceptional circumstances (like when a parent has drugs or weapons on them) is the same as doing it as a matter of policy in all cases.   Do you see the difference?

It’s not disingenuous to say that it’s a bad thing to happen whenever but sometimes you’re only left with bad options.   What is disingenuous is claiming numbers are up and then linking an article that says numbers are down.

We're talking about kids being put into 'internment' camps, which has been going on for a long time. I'm not sure why we keep going back to immigration. Kids are being separated from their parents. They are put into these camps, locked up like animals. This has been going on for a long time. It's only making 'news' now. Yes, one explanation is that the numbers (OF CHILDREN BEING INCARCERATED), not necessarily due to higher immigration numbers, but policy-making (or at least, the enforcing of such).

When it comes to children, there shouldn't be a difference for whatever their parents did. Whether they crossed illegally into the country, their dad is an ax murderer, or mom smuggled 100KG of cocaine into the country. These are children. Had these kids been naturalized children, would they go to jail? Does any kid in Canada or the US go to some sort of jail because of his or her parents? No, they don't. A parent's stupid decision should not have an effect on the child in such a way. Policy or no policy, the severity of the crime, shouldn't make a difference. What Trump is doing is wrong. But what Obama did was wrong too, same with Trudeau, same with Harper, and however for this goes back.

As for the article linking, it was in reference to something else; as for disingenuous, it's in reference to children being locked up.

But, yeah, if it makes us sleep better at night knowing that it is acceptable to incarcerate children for their parents *alleged serious* crimes rather than simply crossing the border illegally to make themselves a better life, then fine. You feel this is fine, good for you. I don't.
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