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General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours
I am neighbouring this development, and frankly, I'm ticked...I should have gone to speak to it, but these houses don't fit the character of the neighbourhood. All the usual excuses to oppose development apply the opposite here, and yet, we still don't get approval.

Worse, this means that any development that *does* happen will necessarily be up market, to cover the increased costs of incorporating the houses in the development.

Anyone who voted for this, just voted AGAINST making housing more affordable in this city. Did I say ticked, nah, livid. I've asked repeatedly for the voting record, but nobody has told me, anyone happen to know who was there?
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I know. We finally had an opportunity to add good housing stock. Swing and miss. Sad.

Queen South is a MIXED USE CORRIDOR. This is exactly the kind of project that should be approved.
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I imagine Vive will take this to the LPAT? Assuming ROOF can still get another home somewhere else and will sell their land too...
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The writing on the wall for this decision was made a couple weeks ago when the heritage committee rejected the idea for 2/3 properties in question to be demolished.

I also wonder if part of the decision was based on how Vive approached the development of this project (not having an agreement in place with all land owners before going to the city etc).

How does the proposed rent of 1550/month compare to get average rental rates in Kitchener? Still seems quite pricey (although I don't really have much bearing in this department ).
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(09-26-2018, 11:17 AM)rangersfan Wrote: The writing on the wall for this decision was made a couple weeks ago when the heritage committee rejected the idea for 2/3 properties in question to be demolished.

I also wonder if part of the decision was based on how Vive approached the development of this project (not having an agreement in place with all land owners before going to the city etc).

How does the proposed rent of 1550/month compare to get average rental rates in Kitchener? Still seems quite pricey (although I don't really have much bearing in this department ).

ROOF supports the proposal. And Vive committed to three affordable units for ROOF, but that did not sway the council.

Currently Vive's own Woodside Terraces are renting for $1300, and Belmont Trio is advertised at $1500. Two years from now, when this project was slated to be completed, those prices will be somewhat higher.
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So... bets on whether those houses will get demolished through neglect?
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10:1
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(09-25-2018, 07:53 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: I am neighbouring this development, and frankly, I'm ticked...I should have gone to speak to it, but these houses don't fit the character of the neighbourhood.  All the usual excuses to oppose development apply the opposite here, and yet, we still don't get approval.

Worse, this means that any development that *does* happen will necessarily be up market, to cover the increased costs of incorporating the houses in the development.

Anyone who voted for this, just voted AGAINST making housing more affordable in this city.  Did I say ticked, nah, livid.  I've asked repeatedly for the voting record, but nobody has told me, anyone happen to know who was there?

All true. I mean, how weird would it be, having a new apartment beside newer apartments and a very new 'house like' structure? Lot of newer buildings in that area, really no point of having 2 homes, which I believe all there is, sticking out like a sore thumb.
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(09-26-2018, 03:16 PM)mpd618 Wrote: So... bets on whether those houses will get demolished through neglect?

Demolished because:

1) Water pipe burst in the middle of January, everything wrecked inside.
2) Fire.
3) Squatters destroy the inside.
4) Something else.
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(09-25-2018, 07:53 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: Anyone who voted for this, just voted AGAINST making housing more affordable in this city.  Did I say ticked, nah, livid.  I've asked repeatedly for the voting record, but nobody has told me, anyone happen to know who was there?

I was there, and spoke for the development, as did a few others. The council listened far more closely to the heritage proponents.


The full council was there. It was not a recorded vote but I'm trying to find out who the supporters and opponents were (I had left by the time of the vote).
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Wow. I did not see that coming. Vive's proposal seemed like such a good fit for the space. So much for intensifying Queen St!
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Q50 (I think that's what it's been rebranded as) the office tower at Queen and Weber has some steel structuring going up around the exterior of the ground floor.

Anyone have details?
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IIRC it's literally just that; Steel beams for a design element on the patio.
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Are they turning it into a patio???
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Nicoya Lifesciences is moving into 29 King St E, next to Rainbow Caribbean Café.
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