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General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours
I've heard these neighbourhoods often described as 'an oasis in the heart of the city'. That they're the one quiet spot one can find among the hustle and bustle. Those who chose it for that reason are reluctant to give it up.
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(10-21-2018, 09:53 AM)KevinL Wrote: I've heard these neighbourhoods often described as 'an oasis in the heart of the city'. That they're the one quiet spot one can find among the hustle and bustle. Those who chose it for that reason are reluctant to give it up.

An oasis … next to an abandoned factory.
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Hey, it's quiet.
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They're likely original owners who refuse to acknowledge that the city has changed in the last 20 years, and want Kitchener to be a quiet small town again. Sorry, things have changed. You live in a highly desirable city now. It's growing up
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(10-21-2018, 12:27 PM)Spokes Wrote: They're likely original owners who refuse to acknowledge that the city has changed in the last 20 years, and want Kitchener to be a quiet small town again.  Sorry, things have changed.  You live in a highly desirable city now.  It's growing up

I couldn't prove it, but I suspect that such views are more likely to come from the newer, younger, more privileged owners who seem to hold sway in that part of town.  It sort of goes with porch parties, painted intersections, plastic children racing toward the street, etc, etc., no?
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The opposition to any development and change is common among both cohorts- those who have been in the neighbourhood for a long time, and the newcomers. But your point that the newcomers are more likely to be privileged is a good one- the more recently you've arrived, the more you paid for your house or the higher your rent is, and the more you probably feel "entitled" to whatever it is you want. Among long-time residents, there is a large proportion who are accustomed to accepting change without feeling that they can influence it. They're not all like that, though.

I think the neighbourhood is in a weird situation because it is reasonably urban by the standards of a KW residential neighbourhood, but that still means its residents are largely car-dependent and operate more-or-less as suburbanites. So, for me, when I get even a whiff of a commercial development on Shanley, say, I'm elated because that's the possibility for another amenity I can walk to. That doesn't factor in for most of my neighbours, so it's all drawback, and they can't see the benefits.
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Here we go again. Anyone who has more than I do must be ‘“privileged”!
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(10-21-2018, 07:08 PM)creative Wrote: Here we go again. Anyone who has more than I do must be ‘“privileged”!

Here we go again. Please try to understand what people are trying to say before dismissing them. For example, I recognize that in many situations I am the privileged one, and I am confident that many others similarly are capable of recognizing at least some of their own privilege. Now how does that square with your slagging of the concept of “privilege” as just meaning someone who has more than I do?
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(10-21-2018, 02:15 PM)panamaniac Wrote:
(10-21-2018, 12:27 PM)Spokes Wrote: They're likely original owners who refuse to acknowledge that the city has changed in the last 20 years, and want Kitchener to be a quiet small town again.  Sorry, things have changed.  You live in a highly desirable city now.  It's growing up

I couldn't prove it, but I suspect that such views are more likely to come from the newer, younger, more privileged owners who seem to hold sway in that part of town.  It sort of goes with porch parties, painted intersections, plastic children racing toward the street, etc, etc., no?

It could be, you never know.  I just always thought it was people who'd been there a long time wanting things to be how they'd always been expecting things not to change.  But then again that could go for anyone.
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The Queen and Charles proposal is pretty neat. The Zion Church project is very unique, I am not sure what to make of it, but I have a hard time imagining that one coming to reality.
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Apparently the Zion Church is going to be used as a night club for Halloween: https://churchentertainmentcomplex.com/
I REALLY hope this is just a one time thing.
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That's weird. Really weird.

Is there still a church operating out of there still?
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(10-26-2018, 12:36 PM)Spokes Wrote: That's weird.  Really weird.

Is there still a church operating out of there still?

No,

Private owners of the building  https://www.therecord.com/news-story/704...wner-says/
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As long as the former Sanctuary remains intact, I have trouble imagining it being used for anything other than a music venue or nightclub. It's a very big space.
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Id be ok with a music venue.  I feel like we need more of that.  When I see some of the acts playing at CITS, it makes me want another music venue.  Nothing against CITS, it just doesn't always fit some of the acts they bring in.

I've heard some recent grads make this comment too.  Could be something to help us retain talent.
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