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RE: Ottawa LRT - tomh009 - 09-06-2018
OC Transpo bus service changes are not making people happy in Ottawa:
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/oc-transpo-fall-service-changes-raise-transit-users-ire
https://ottawasun.com/news/local-news/mcleod-transit-service-cuts-and-fare-hikes-undermine-lrt
RE: Ottawa LRT - KevinL - 09-10-2018
Launch is now 'early 2019'. Will Ion be first?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/lrt-delivery-late-november-2-1.4817010
RE: Ottawa LRT - tomh009 - 09-10-2018
(09-10-2018, 11:05 AM)KevinL Wrote: Launch is now 'early 2019'. Will Ion be first?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/lrt-delivery-late-november-2-1.4817010
So this is only a month after they indicated their confidence in completing all the work by November 2nd.
They won't have all the train sets ready at the beginning of November, nor will all the stations be (substantially) completed. (Note that the trains are coming from Alstom, not Bombardier.)
RE: Ottawa LRT - Pheidippides - 09-11-2018
An earlier version of that article said that RTG (their GrandLinq) says it can meet a November 30 deadline (basically an extra month), but that an independent review panel says the end of February is the earliest the system would be available.
To meet the November 30 deadline RTG would:
Not conducting 12 consecutive days of trial runs on the entire rail line.
Not opening the north-side entrance to the Rideau Station.
Running only 32 trains instead of all 34, because two still aren't equipped with computer modules needed to run properly
RE: Ottawa LRT - tomh009 - 09-11-2018
I think "computer modules" are probably the same as our "specialized equipment" ...
RE: Ottawa LRT - Markster - 09-11-2018
Hmm, so the delay was announced on Sept 10th, and the handover date had been pegged at Nov 2nd.
That is 7 weeks & 3 days, or 52 days.
The current promise for Waterloo LRT is "December", which we can all interpret as Dec 31st.
52 days before that is Nov 9th.
If we're going to get another delay, I sure hope we can get more notice than Ottawa did!
RE: Ottawa LRT - Pheidippides - 09-12-2018
Not all the costs of an LRT delay are covered by a P3 agreement:
Cost of Ottawa's latest LRT delay climbing into millions
"Add it all up, and taxpayers are staring at a potential bill of $20 million."
RE: Ottawa LRT - timc - 09-13-2018
(09-12-2018, 07:57 AM)Pheidippides Wrote: Not all the costs of an LRT delay are covered by a P3 agreement:
Cost of Ottawa's latest LRT delay climbing into millions
"Add it all up, and taxpayers are staring at a potential bill of $20 million."
Aren't we already up to $50 million?
From last year:
https://www.therecord.com/news-story/7988212-light-rail-construction-cost-jumps-50m/
RE: Ottawa LRT - Coke6pk - 10-02-2018
Updates from my recent Ottawa trip:
Wayfinding:
Place de Ville Station:
Lyon Station:
Hopefully, I'll find some more to snap when I go back next week.....
Coke
RE: Ottawa LRT - Canard - 10-03-2018
Sadly it appears Ottawa hasn't adopted the Metrolinx-standard LRV pictogram, that we have here (and Toronto/Hamilton/Mississauga will all have, for consistency).
...and I like consistency.
RE: Ottawa LRT - KevinL - 10-03-2018
The standard pictogram would be used on road signs. Alas, the Ottawa system has no road interactions.
RE: Ottawa LRT - jamincan - 10-03-2018
It would also be found on any wayfinding signs as shown in Coke's first picture.
RE: Ottawa LRT - KevinL - 10-03-2018
Yes, the wayfinding signs aren't provincially regulated so the city picked their own symbol, it seems.
RE: Ottawa LRT - Canard - 10-03-2018
Cities can use whatever symbol they want - there is no consistency... look at the icons for busses, cars, heck I've never even seen goose/duck crossing signs that are the same. Everyone just does whatever the hell they want and I can't stand it!
All I was saying Kevin was that it would have been nice if Ottawa used the same LRV pictogram that Waterloo is using (for all signs - road, station, wayfinding, etc.). Toronto is also using this same pictogram (which was developed by Metrolinx, and we just happen to be the first "new" LRT to use it).
RE: Ottawa LRT - Coke6pk - 10-19-2018
Wayfinding, uOttawa tunnel:
Wayfinding, looking inside the uOttawa Station:
uOttawa station from Campus:
Coke