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RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - KevinL - 03-16-2021
Yeah, part of the old Sears is all they'll need. It's a big unit.
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - Spokes - 03-18-2021
Isn't there a Winners further down Fairway?
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - GarthDanlor - 03-18-2021
(03-18-2021, 01:36 PM)Spokes Wrote: Isn't there a Winners further down Fairway?A Marshalls but, yes, same company. Similar situation on Ira Needles and on Hespeler Rd (bit further apart though). You even see them in the same plaza/power centre some times. Not sure why they do it?
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - Spokes - 03-19-2021
It gives the illusion of people getting to shop around but at the end of the day the money goes into the same company.
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - nms - 03-20-2021
They can also corner two suitably different markets though the Ven diagram is probably pretty close for overlap.
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - TMKM94 - 03-21-2021
(03-18-2021, 01:36 PM)Spokes Wrote: Isn't there a Winners further down Fairway?There used to be. The Winners was converted into Marshalls.
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - Spokes - 03-23-2021
(03-20-2021, 01:08 AM)nms Wrote: They can also corner two suitably different markets though the Ven diagram is probably pretty close for overlap.
Are they different markets? I always assumed they'd be the same
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - Chris - 03-23-2021
(03-23-2021, 11:19 AM)Spokes Wrote:(03-20-2021, 01:08 AM)nms Wrote: They can also corner two suitably different markets though the Ven diagram is probably pretty close for overlap.
Are they different markets? I always assumed they'd be the same
As someone who has spent many hours kicking rocks in Marshalls and Winners, I challenge you to spot the difference if you entered them blindfolded.
Home Sense is different. Marshall/Winners? I'd argue not so much.
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - GarthDanlor - 03-23-2021
(03-23-2021, 12:59 PM)Chris Wrote:I think at one time there were some minor differences. For example, Marshall's shoe department was a bigger focus than the the Winner's counterpart. Not much difference now, I don't think.(03-23-2021, 11:19 AM)Spokes Wrote: Are they different markets? I always assumed they'd be the same
As someone who has spent many hours kicking rocks in Marshalls and Winners, I challenge you to spot the difference if you entered them blindfolded.
Home Sense is different. Marshall/Winners? I'd argue not so much.
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - Spokes - 03-28-2021
(03-23-2021, 12:59 PM)Chris Wrote:(03-23-2021, 11:19 AM)Spokes Wrote: Are they different markets? I always assumed they'd be the same
As someone who has spent many hours kicking rocks in Marshalls and Winners, I challenge you to spot the difference if you entered them blindfolded.
Home Sense is different. Marshall/Winners? I'd argue not so much.
I always thought they were the same too. Couldn't tell a difference
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - jeffster - 03-29-2021
(03-23-2021, 12:59 PM)Chris Wrote:(03-23-2021, 11:19 AM)Spokes Wrote: Are they different markets? I always assumed they'd be the same
As someone who has spent many hours kicking rocks in Marshalls and Winners, I challenge you to spot the difference if you entered them blindfolded.
Home Sense is different. Marshall/Winners? I'd argue not so much.
Marshalls is in the USA, while Winners isn't. And yes, I realize they both have the same owner. I am thinking that Marshalls might be more geared to those that cross border shop, or would like to. Sometimes it works for companies (like Wal*Mart) sometimes it doesn't (like Target).
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - Coke6pk - 03-30-2021
So I was thinking about the smokestack here... and thinking about the costs involved in building it. There was the framework, and the large amount of scaffolding and wrap... let alone the labour costs for the bricklayers working inside.
What does a company like CF gain from such an expenditure? There is no profit making opportunities in having it... I just don't understand why.
Coke
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - jamincan - 03-30-2021
Malls are increasingly becoming less relevant compared to places like the Boardwalk; I suspect that this is a move to raise the profile of Fairview and help to define a more distinctive and marketable identity for the place to prospective tenants.
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - ac3r - 03-30-2021
It's just architectural design in practice. It's kitschy and ugly, but malls still put some effort into their designs when they make them. They would have already had a budget set aside for this and so the architects figured this would be a good look.
RE: Fairview Park Mall - Grand Market District - ijmorlan - 03-30-2021
(03-30-2021, 09:38 AM)jamincan Wrote: Malls are increasingly becoming less relevant compared to places like the Boardwalk; I suspect that this is a move to raise the profile of Fairview and help to define a more distinctive and marketable identity for the place to prospective tenants.
“Places like the Boardwalk”; meaning shockingly poorly designed malls that have the same disconnection from the neighbourhood and other nearby commercial properties as places like Conestoga Mall or Fairview Mall, but don’t even have the ability to walk between the various merchants in a protected environment?
I will never understand why people think that the requirement to get rained on when walking from one store to another is a plus.
I would have built the Boardwalk as one enormous building fronting directly on Ira Needles running from Thorndale to Glasgow, with a passthrough to allow a vehicle entrance at University (future extension all the way to Erb). The space behind would be parking. So people could enter from the Ira Needles side on foot or from a bicycle, or from the landfill side from a vehicle. At quiet times they would use the parking spots right behind the building, while at busier times most people would have to use the parking further away (simply due to the close spots already being full).
In the future, if personal vehicle use declines, the parking lot could be progressively replaced by a duplicate building separated from the existing building by courtyards and linked by breezeways or enclosed passages.