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RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - WaterLouGehrig - 10-29-2021

Interesting that he claims "missing middle" but the building is still largely one-bedroom units. Isn't missing middle generally 3+ beds, aimed at families?


RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - Spokes - 10-29-2021

I used to live near there growing up. There are very few homes that would be impacted from a shadow perspective. This seems like a good location for this project


RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - tomh009 - 10-29-2021

(10-29-2021, 11:20 AM)WaterLouGehrig Wrote: Interesting that he claims "missing middle" but the building is still largely one-bedroom units. Isn't missing middle generally 3+ beds, aimed at families?

What he referred to as "missing middle" was mid-market rental units, with mid-market pricing -- neither luxury not subsidized/income-geared.

He also said that the demand (even for rental units!) is the strongest for one-bedroom units. So, that's what is continuing to be built. If there were thousands of renters looking for three-plus bedroom apartments, I am confident that Vive and others would be building more of those.


RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - clasher - 10-29-2021

These complainers are the biggest bunch of crybabies around these days... the neighbourhood already has a tower that's across from Rockway Gardens. Oh no, the new tower is gonna ruin my view of a car dealership and dirty old red lobster.


RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - mastermind - 11-01-2021

I also think this is a strange neighbourhood complaint. I expect the existing Rockway neighbourhood and this development (if built) would have extremely limited interaction. King St with the divided lanes then Floral Crescent, it's almost like there are 3 roads between this development and any houses. There are also some decent size trees, and almost none of the houses on Floral Crescent even face in this direction.


RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - Lebronj23 - 09-14-2022

Decision on two tower development deferred after developers make “11th hour request” for additional storeys

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.therecord.com%2Fnews%2Fwaterloo-region%2F2022%2F09%2F14%2Fdecision-on-two-tower-project-in-kitchener-deferred-after-developer-makes-11th-hour-request-for-extra-storeys.html


RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - ac3r - 09-14-2022

Yikes that rendering makes it look like SHIT haha.


RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - Bjays93 - 09-16-2022

An 8 story podium is quite imposing I must say. That's 1/3 of the total building height.


RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - Spokes - 09-18-2022

(09-14-2022, 07:06 PM)Lebronj23 Wrote: Decision on two tower development deferred after developers make “11th hour request” for additional storeys

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.therecord.com%2Fnews%2Fwaterloo-region%2F2022%2F09%2F14%2Fdecision-on-two-tower-project-in-kitchener-deferred-after-developer-makes-11th-hour-request-for-extra-storeys.html

Aka deferred until after the election for fear of pissing off voters. 

Why not just shut down council because no one wants to make a decision on anything until November


RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - bravado - 09-18-2022

(09-18-2022, 11:58 AM)Spokes Wrote:
(09-14-2022, 07:06 PM)Lebronj23 Wrote: Decision on two tower development deferred after developers make “11th hour request” for additional storeys

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.therecord.com%2Fnews%2Fwaterloo-region%2F2022%2F09%2F14%2Fdecision-on-two-tower-project-in-kitchener-deferred-after-developer-makes-11th-hour-request-for-extra-storeys.html

Aka deferred until after the election for fear of pissing off voters. 

Why not just shut down council because no one wants to make a decision on anything until November

Being terrified of loud voters with too much free time and self-interest counts as democracy, right?


RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - Spokes - 09-20-2022

Isn't that democracy in it's purest form?


RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - jeffster - 09-27-2022

This build was approved last night at the council meeting (along with other approvals):

Quote:Council clears way for more diverse housing
By approving several official plan and zoning bylaw amendment applications, Kitchener Council has cleared the way for more diverse housing in different parts of the city including central neighbourhoods and Ottawa Street South areas; more affordable housing near Fairview Mall; and new high-rise construction at the edge of the core near King Street East and Highway 8.

The approvals will allow developers to build:

· Up to four infill units at 27 Roy St. Council’s amendments allow the interior of an existing building (one dwelling) to be renovated into four dwelling units, or three dwelling units plus a unit containing an artisan’s studio and small-scale cafe.

· 48 affordable housing units operated by the Region of Waterloo on Wilson Avenue at Fourth Street — a net increase of 32 geared-to-income homes for seniors. The zoning bylaw amendment allows a previously demolished two-storey building containing 16 units to be replaced with a six-storey building containing 48 units. The amendment allows for a taller building and more parking (.5 spots) per unit.

· 166 mid-rise units by the Mill ION light rail station near Mill Street and Ottawa Street South. Council's changes respond to the “missing middle” by changing the Official Plan designation from low-rise residential to medium-rise residential. The proposed development consists of 166 residential units, including 110 one-bedroom units, 49 two-bedroom units, and seven three-bedroom units along with 157 parking spaces located underground and in the rear yard.

· 658 residential units in two towers on a lot between King Street East and Weber Street East – the site of the former Schwaben Club across from Eastwood Collegiate Institute. Council’s amendments allow for the construction of two towers, 24 and 25 storeys in height, each with an eight-storey podium. The 403 parking spaces, located underground and on a parking deck, would include 123 EV-ready parking stalls.



RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - Rainrider22 - 09-27-2022

Funny how the mayor agreed with this because it meets many of the goals. He says people will always have resistance to change. However, when it came to the Victoria tower project, he had no problem voting it down even though it met the same goals and needs..


RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - tomh009 - 09-27-2022

(09-27-2022, 04:12 PM)Rainrider22 Wrote: Funny how the mayor agreed with this because it meets many of the goals. He says people will always have resistance to change.  However, when it came to the Victoria tower project, he had no problem voting it down even though it met the same goals and needs..

One difference is that this will be a rental building, whereas Victoria/Park would be condos. Is that the difference? Or is it because this one is further away from DTK?


RE: 1668 King Street East | 23+23 fl | Proposed - Lebronj23 - 09-27-2022

Chapman opposed this, what do ya know