(04-30-2021, 08:42 AM)ac3r Wrote: Nice /r/hailhortler on the wall.

Is there anything planned for this site, or were they just demolishing old homes? I was unsure of where this was so I looked it up on Google Maps and it seems both 656 and 664 King East had blue fencing around them.

(04-30-2021, 09:49 AM)Rainrider22 Wrote: Ok cool thanks,  So you have a good perspective.  I am not going to argue with you at all that there is a lot of room for improvement, and it is coming thankfully.  I just get frustrated when people that dont even frequent the area chirp about how crappy it is..  But I respect your comments.  Thanks for answering.

(04-30-2021, 09:49 AM)Rainrider22 Wrote: Ok cool thanks,  So you have a good perspective.  I am not going to argue with you at all that there is a lot of room for improvement, and it is coming thankfully.  I just get frustrated when people that dont even frequent the area chirp about how crappy it is..  But I respect your comments.  Thanks for answering.

(04-30-2021, 08:35 PM)dtkvictim Wrote:

(04-30-2021, 09:49 AM)Rainrider22 Wrote: Ok cool thanks,  So you have a good perspective.  I am not going to argue with you at all that there is a lot of room for improvement, and it is coming thankfully.  I just get frustrated when people that dont even frequent the area chirp about how crappy it is..  But I respect your comments.  Thanks for answering.

Inversely, I get frustrated when I get scolded for speaking negatively about the area I live in by people who visit it, but don't also live here. I'm aware of the great shops, restaurants, and other conveniences. I'm unhappy with the area in spite of these, not out of ignorance of their existence. In fact, that's the primary reason I have an account here, to understand the roots of my problems, and how to make things better, which involves being critical.

I also don't center my life around consumerism (though I know many do), whereas many visitors to the area have a shop as a destination, and so probably place a much higher value on the shops making DTK a "vibrant" place.

Anyways, this isn't directed at you, as you've clearly just stated you're willing to accept or respect alternative first-hand perspective. I just wanted to post my own thoughts on "outside" opinions.

(05-01-2021, 09:03 AM)ac3r Wrote: IMO one thing that could help liven up this side of downtown would be a park. Something with contemporary landscape architecture like Vogelsang Green has. I'd love to see that Mission Bible Thrift Store (off Scott Street) go and then expand Market Green so it connects with Market Lane.

(05-01-2021, 09:03 AM)ac3r Wrote: IMO one thing that could help liven up this side of downtown would be a park. Something with contemporary landscape architecture like Vogelsang Green has. I'd love to see that Mission Bible Thrift Store (off Scott Street) go and then expand Market Green so it connects with Market Lane.

(05-01-2021, 09:26 AM)danbrotherston Wrote:

(05-01-2021, 09:03 AM)ac3r Wrote: IMO one thing that could help liven up this side of downtown would be a park. Something with contemporary landscape architecture like Vogelsang Green has. I'd love to see that Mission Bible Thrift Store (off Scott Street) go and then expand Market Green so it connects with Market Lane.

A big part of it may simply be that the streetscape has not been updated. When you compare with North (West) of Frederick, that section was rebuilt not too long ago, and looks much newer and more modern.

But more greenspace is always good.

As an aside, there are some confusing things on the map.  For some reason, Frederick Mall is shown in green on the map.

Also, it seems slightly misleading to show cemetaries as green. I mean, they are in some ways greenspace, but fairly different from a park.  I'm also unclear if "Kaufman Park" which appears to be the school yard for CHCI is actually a park or not.  Again, these are somewhat dubious claims, but it makes the area appear to have far more greenspace than it really does.

(05-01-2021, 10:54 AM)GarthDanlor Wrote:

(05-01-2021, 09:26 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: A big part of it may simply be that the streetscape has not been updated. When you compare with North (West) of Frederick, that section was rebuilt not too long ago, and looks much newer and more modern.

But more greenspace is always good.

As an aside, there are some confusing things on the map.  For some reason, Frederick Mall is shown in green on the map.

Also, it seems slightly misleading to show cemetaries as green. I mean, they are in some ways greenspace, but fairly different from a park.  I'm also unclear if "Kaufman Park" which appears to be the school yard for CHCI is actually a park or not.  Again, these are somewhat dubious claims, but it makes the area appear to have far more greenspace than it really does.

Kaufman Park does incorporate the playing fields, tennis courts and the kids play park (tucked in the far corner).  I regularly take the dog there for a run and it is a pretty substantial open area.

(05-01-2021, 01:42 PM)danbrotherston Wrote:

(05-01-2021, 10:54 AM)GarthDanlor Wrote: Kaufman Park does incorporate the playing fields, tennis courts and the kids play park (tucked in the far corner).  I regularly take the dog there for a run and it is a pretty substantial open area.

How do you get in? It's a wall along Stirling, everything else appears to be walking into the school yard.

(05-01-2021, 01:42 PM)danbrotherston Wrote:

(05-01-2021, 10:54 AM)GarthDanlor Wrote: Kaufman Park does incorporate the playing fields, tennis courts and the kids play park (tucked in the far corner).  I regularly take the dog there for a run and it is a pretty substantial open area.

How do you get in? It's a wall along Stirling, everything else appears to be walking into the school yard.

I'm always a little wary of walking onto school property...maybe I shouldn't be, but it's not without cause, I was hassled rather....aggressively, when I was in University but returned to my old school to congratulate a favourite teacher on retirement.

Quote:How do you get in? It's a wall along Stirling, everything else appears to be walking into the school yard.

Quote:Primarily from the school parking lot -- but there is also a small entrance at the end of that wall, close to where Stirling meets Courtland.