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Uptown Public Realm Strategy - Printable Version +- Waterloo Region Connected (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com) +-- Forum: Land Development and Real Estate (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=4) +--- Forum: Urban Areas (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=5) +--- Thread: Uptown Public Realm Strategy (/showthread.php?tid=1302) |
RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - urbd - 10-17-2018 (09-28-2018, 10:44 PM)Pheidippides Wrote: My understanding is similar to megabytephreak's but in addition that the pumping station is a heritage property. Last I heard, the Region wanted to convert the pumping station building into a makers space/mini community centre/cafe surrounded by a park. This would be a pretty ideal re-use in my opinion! RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - Spokes - 03-07-2019 Plans to improve uptown Waterloo outdoor spaces may take time Quote:Waterloo council has approved three key proposals to improve outdoor spaces in the uptown, while warning the unfunded projects won't happen right away.https://www.therecord.com/news-story/9205152-plans-to-improve-uptown-waterloo-outdoor-spaces-may-take-time/ RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - jamincan - 03-07-2019 Why not just close Willis Way entirely? RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - Spokes - 03-07-2019 That's what I was thinking. I typically think one way streets are dumb, so there's some bias there. RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - timc - 03-07-2019 In trying to figure out which one way is the right way if you were to remove one direction from Willis Way, I had to also ask myself what purpose this street serves. I think most of its raison d'être is access to parking. But also, reading the document, I don't see where it recommends making Willis Way into a one-way street. It calls it a "shared street". There is "consideration ... as a potential candidate for one way movement in the up-coming Transportation Master Plan Update". So I think the reporting jumps the gun on this issue. RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - danbrotherston - 03-07-2019 (03-07-2019, 11:43 AM)Spokes Wrote: That's what I was thinking. I typically think one way streets are dumb, so there's some bias there. One way streets can be both helpful, and problematic, they can be helpful in allowing the city to fit vehicle access in places without enough room for two way traffic, as well as using direction restrictions to prevent rat running through neighbourhoods. However, they can also be used to create urban highways through our downtown core. This looks like it would be the former. RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - danbrotherston - 03-07-2019 (03-07-2019, 11:57 AM)timc Wrote: In trying to figure out which one way is the right way if you were to remove one direction from Willis Way, I had to also ask myself what purpose this street serves. I think most of its raison d'être is access to parking. It could have been mentioned verbally in the presentation. Although a shared street would tend to contradict the idea of one-way traffic, as restricting to one-way would give plenty of space not to share the street. RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - ijmorlan - 03-07-2019 (03-07-2019, 12:11 PM)danbrotherston Wrote:(03-07-2019, 11:43 AM)Spokes Wrote: That's what I was thinking. I typically think one way streets are dumb, so there's some bias there. Well said. Even for major traffic routes, one-way streets can have a green wave at whatever speed is considered acceptable, and can be designed so travelling consistently faster is impossible without running red lights. The problem is not really with the streets, but with the planners — if they want to build a highway through town, they can design the street for that; and if they want to build access to destinations within the area at reasonable pedestrian-compatible speeds, they can design the street for that. As to the hypothetical direction of Willis Way, I think westbound would be what is wanted. Erb, the next street north, is eastbound. Giving up one motor vehicle lane for pedestrians and bicyclists would make a lot of sense. RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - nms - 03-11-2019 Does this proposal include all of Willis Way, or just the part between King and Caroline? I suspect that the King to Regina stretch would always need car access since it serves as the entrance to the City Parkade, the delivery lanes between King and Regina, and possibly the new parking structure for the proposed new building there. RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - danbrotherston - 03-11-2019 (03-11-2019, 11:31 AM)nms Wrote: Does this proposal include all of Willis Way, or just the part between King and Caroline? I suspect that the King to Regina stretch would always need car access since it serves as the entrance to the City Parkade, the delivery lanes between King and Regina, and possibly the new parking structure for the proposed new building there. None of the proposal involves closing Willis Way to cars at all. RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - nms - 03-19-2019 The article proposes that (as quoted earlier in this thread), "The street would close to cars at times for public events," with the implication of connecting the Cenotaph green with the Civic Square. RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - Spokes - 03-20-2019 I can't even imagine there's much vehicular traffic on that part of the street RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - nms - 04-01-2019 (03-20-2019, 06:54 AM)Spokes Wrote: I can't even imagine there's much vehicular traffic on that part of the street Unless cars are trying to get into the Parkade. I don't think that there is an entrance off of Regina. RE: Uptown Public Realm Strategy - jeffster - 04-10-2019 (03-07-2019, 12:11 PM)danbrotherston Wrote:(03-07-2019, 11:43 AM)Spokes Wrote: That's what I was thinking. I typically think one way streets are dumb, so there's some bias there. Yes! When I lived in Hamilton it was amazing how fast you could get from one end of Hamilton (especially West to East) to the other end, when you were down the mountain. Quite often you could hit every green light until the two one-way streets merged. |