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RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - panamaniac - 05-13-2020

(05-13-2020, 10:35 AM)Momo26 Wrote: Is it just me or are wooden beams being used where steel beams would be otherwise?
It's all wooden beams, no?  Wooden floor plates as well.


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - tomh009 - 05-13-2020

That's right; it's structural wood construction, with wood replacing both the steel and the concrete.


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - Momo26 - 05-13-2020

Full disclosure: I'm not a structural engineer...

Would wood in this case be just as strong and/or more advantageous than steel/concrete?


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - clasher - 05-13-2020

(05-13-2020, 10:35 AM)Momo26 Wrote: Is it just me or are wooden beams being used where steel beams would be otherwise?

I think that's the point, wood is cheaper and 'greener' than steel when it comes to this kind of construction.


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - tomh009 - 05-13-2020

And, yes, the structural wood buildings are very much engineered to be strong and durable enough.

Full disclosure: in the far, far distant past, I worked on some software to design buildings with structural wood.
http://woodworks-software.com/canadian-edition/


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - panamaniac - 05-13-2020

(05-13-2020, 11:53 AM)clasher Wrote:
(05-13-2020, 10:35 AM)Momo26 Wrote: Is it just me or are wooden beams being used where steel beams would be otherwise?

I think that's the point, wood is cheaper and 'greener' than steel when it comes to this kind of construction.
Also much greener than concrete, I should think.


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - KevinL - 05-13-2020

In a way we've come full circle on the classical brick-and-beam construction. The main difference is that he wood can now be engineered with FAR higher precision (and doesn't require single large beams from carefully-selected trees).


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - tomh009 - 05-14-2020

Window installation is starting; you can see that the aluminium framing is attached directly to the structural wood.

   


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - panamaniac - 05-14-2020

I am so looking forward to seeing the glass installed. It is going to make or break the building (I still haven't decided whether the "ghost Mayfair" fritted glass is going to be tacky or terrific).


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - clasher - 05-14-2020

(05-13-2020, 04:13 PM)panamaniac Wrote:
(05-13-2020, 11:53 AM)clasher Wrote: I think that's the point, wood is cheaper and 'greener' than steel when it comes to this kind of construction.
Also much greener than concrete, I should think.

Having worked in many cement plants I can most assuredly confirm this. Cement is one of the biggest polluters there is... all the cement plants in Ontario still burn coal in their kilns, along with the lime plants.


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - tomh009 - 05-14-2020

Concrete production is responsible for close to 10% of total global CO2 emissions.


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - mastermind - 05-14-2020

(05-14-2020, 01:47 PM)tomh009 Wrote: Concrete production is responsible for close to 10% of total global CO2 emissions.

True but it's also the number one reason we are able to build dense cities, which apparently saves CO2 emissions.


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - plam - 05-14-2020

(05-14-2020, 04:18 PM)mastermind Wrote:
(05-14-2020, 01:47 PM)tomh009 Wrote: Concrete production is responsible for close to 10% of total global CO2 emissions.

True but it's also the number one reason we are able to build dense cities, which apparently saves CO2 emissions.

Good thing we can look at replacing concrete with wood! Or invent less carbon-intensive concrete...


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - Spokes - 05-20-2020

Someone posted it a while back, but are there height limits with wood? (I'm sure there are, so maybe I'm just asking, WHAT are the height limits with wood?)


RE: Mayfair Hotel project | 5 fl | U/C - plam - 05-20-2020

As of 2017 there was an 18-story dorm in Vancouver. NatGeo wrote about a 12-story building in 2020 and said it was the tallest all-wood building in the world. That NatGeo piece also says that the US building code is permitting 18 stories in 2021, and the tallest in the US right now is 8.

https://www.wired.com/2017/05/wood-skyscrapers/
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/01/skyscrapers-of-the-future-will-be-made-out-of-wood/