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RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - taylortbb - 07-27-2021

(07-27-2021, 02:35 PM)Lebronj23 Wrote:
(06-30-2021, 08:32 PM)ac3r Wrote: Um so now this building is apparently 42 floors...? Does anyone know what the floor count is, including the mechanical floor? If anyone lives downtown, maybe they could count them. I ask because I just found a thread on Reddit with a photograph taken by - I presume - a construction worker. The thread is titled "KW from 42 stories High". Someone asked what the count is but there was never a reply to the question: https://www.reddit.com/r/kitchener/comments/ob3tam/kw_from_42_stories_high/

And if it's 40 or 42 floors, I guess it's a lot higher than the 128 meter height that was in the architectural CAD files.

41 or 42? I can’t read these things

That's 39 floors, as floors are typically defined for high rise buildings (excluding the mechanical floors). If you want to add mechanical floors to the count you'd have to add them to almost every high rise in the city. Charlie West, 1 Victoria, Young Condos, Breithaupt Block, etc all have 1-2 mechanical floors on top of the official floor count.


RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - Lebronj23 - 07-27-2021

The city sent me the plans surprisingly. If anyone wants them Send me a PM with your email address  and I’ll email them over


RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - Lebronj23 - 07-27-2021

(07-27-2021, 02:50 PM)taylortbb Wrote:
(07-27-2021, 02:35 PM)Lebronj23 Wrote: 41 or 42? I can’t read these things

That's 39 floors, as floors are typically defined for high rise buildings (excluding the mechanical floors). If you want to add mechanical floors to the count you'd have to add them to almost every high rise in the city. Charlie West, 1 Victoria, Young Condos, Breithaupt Block, etc all have 1-2 mechanical floors on top of the official floor count.

Yah true, I always thought however for true height of building you measure to architectural tip. Which includes any mechanical, spires, but not any antennas or radio masts. (Imo I think spires are kindof cheating) Eg. St Regis in Toronto or One World Trade in NYC. This is how all the websites are measure, Skyscraper City, Emporis etc


RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - taylortbb - 07-27-2021

(07-27-2021, 02:59 PM)Lebronj23 Wrote:
(07-27-2021, 02:50 PM)taylortbb Wrote: That's 39 floors, as floors are typically defined for high rise buildings (excluding the mechanical floors). If you want to add mechanical floors to the count you'd have to add them to almost every high rise in the city. Charlie West, 1 Victoria, Young Condos, Breithaupt Block, etc all have 1-2 mechanical floors on top of the official floor count.

Yah true, I always thought however for true height of building you measure to architectural tip. Which includes any mechanical, spires, but not any antennas or radio masts. (Imo I think spires are kindof cheating) Eg. St Regis in Toronto or One World Trade in NYC. This is how all the websites are measure, Skyscraper City, Emporis etc

If you're measuring building height in meters then yes, that's the convention, but floor counts are separate from that. You'd say that DTK Condos is 128m/39fl.

That diagram appears to have some pretty wrong height markings though, the machine room at 571m makes the building taller than the CN Tower.


RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - ijmorlan - 07-27-2021

(07-27-2021, 03:48 PM)taylortbb Wrote:
(07-27-2021, 02:59 PM)Lebronj23 Wrote: Yah true, I always thought however for true height of building you measure to architectural tip. Which includes any mechanical, spires, but not any antennas or radio masts. (Imo I think spires are kindof cheating) Eg. St Regis in Toronto or One World Trade in NYC. This is how all the websites are measure, Skyscraper City, Emporis etc

If you're measuring building height in meters then yes, that's the convention, but floor counts are separate from that. You'd say that DTK Condos is 128m/39fl.

That diagram appears to have some pretty wrong height markings though, the machine room at 571m makes the building taller than the CN Tower.

I think those are elevations. 0 is not at ground level. That being said, the top one is about 100m lower than the ones near it, so not sure what is going on there.

Anyway, the CN Tower isn’t that tall. What, maybe 12-15 floors or so?


RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - catarctica - 07-27-2021

I know that the building is not looking so fly (god forbids the podium), but I’m just happy we’re getting 40+ floor building in Kitchener Waterloo.


RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - ac3r - 07-28-2021

(07-27-2021, 02:35 PM)Lebronj23 Wrote:
(06-30-2021, 08:32 PM)ac3r Wrote: Um so now this building is apparently 42 floors...? Does anyone know what the floor count is, including the mechanical floor? If anyone lives downtown, maybe they could count them. I ask because I just found a thread on Reddit with a photograph taken by - I presume - a construction worker. The thread is titled "KW from 42 stories High". Someone asked what the count is but there was never a reply to the question: https://www.reddit.com/r/kitchener/comments/ob3tam/kw_from_42_stories_high/

And if it's 40 or 42 floors, I guess it's a lot higher than the 128 meter height that was in the architectural CAD files.

41 or 42? I can’t read these things

It's 39 floors. Mechanical penthouses aren't really factored into the floor count at the end of the day. Technically they're floors, but when we talk about building floor counts in architecture, you only count the amount of usable/livable floors (though if you have, say a couple levels of above ground parking, that is often included).

When measuring building height, you can do it two ways. Well, in architecture we measure everything. But when representing height to the public, the standard is to measure to the top of the building (which includes mechanical penthouses). At times, however, things like spires, antennas and so on are included. This is only ever done for bragging rights since we wouldn't really consider an antenna as being part of the building. Spires are different, but usually we differentiate between actual building height and height including the spire.

Architectural drawings can be confusing to understand at first. Autodesk has a good page on AutoCAD (which is primarily what firms in North America use - Europe prefers ArchiCAD), with lots of pages on the meanings of drawings and how to understand them. Architizer has a good list of various symbols that you see in drawings as well. The entire Practice page has great resources for learning all about how architecture is produced if you're curious.


RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - Coke6pk - 07-29-2021

(07-27-2021, 02:50 PM)taylortbb Wrote:
(07-27-2021, 02:35 PM)Lebronj23 Wrote: 41 or 42? I can’t read these things

That's 39 floors, as floors are typically defined for high rise buildings (excluding the mechanical floors). If you want to add mechanical floors to the count you'd have to add them to almost every high rise in the city. Charlie West, 1 Victoria, Young Condos, Breithaupt Block, etc all have 1-2 mechanical floors on top of the official floor count.

For definition, yes, the building is 39 floors.  However, if I was to take a picture/video while standing on the rooftop, the original reference to "from 42 stories high" would also be correct.

Coke


RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - DK519 - 08-05-2021

As per reddit the crane will be coming down August 14th.


RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - jwilliamson - 08-14-2021

   


RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - Lebronj23 - 09-14-2021

[attachment=7966]From today


RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - Lebronj23 - 09-14-2021

[attachment=7967]Is it just me or is it looking slightly better


RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - tomh009 - 09-14-2021

(09-14-2021, 05:23 PM)Lebronj23 Wrote: Is it just me or is it looking slightly better

Maybe if you don't look at the street-facing sides! Big Grin


RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - ac3r - 09-14-2021

Just you. When I see this building, I see this. A damaged, dirty pile of crap sitting in the gutter.

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RE: Duke Tower Kitchener | 39 fl | U/C - Lebronj23 - 09-14-2021

(09-14-2021, 09:20 PM)ac3r Wrote: Just you. When I see this building, I see this. A damaged, dirty pile of crap sitting in the gutter.

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touche

Maybe I saw more glass and more glass = less multi coloured spandrel? 

Maybe they should make the next tower all glass, blue glass green glass. Hated in Toronto but let’s take it in the region