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Costco--but with 800 apartments - tomh009 - 07-01-2024
A new Costco proposal in LA area is not only mixed use but includes a huge amount of residential units. 800 units in total, including 184 for low-income tenants. Couldn't one of our own retail chains take a similar approach as well?
A rendering of the street view.
![[Image: ratio3x2_960.webp]](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/31/25/32/23418519/3/ratio3x2_960.webp)
This is a BIG footprint.
![[Image: ratio3x2_960.webp]](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/40/33/15/25277306/4/ratio3x2_960.webp)
https://www.sfgate.com/la/article/costco-housing-apartments-south-la-19541521.php
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - bravado - 07-01-2024
What happens if the Costco business model goes out of style and there’s a gigantic warehouse void at the bottom? Either way, quite creative.
Of course the bike lane in the render is a death trap…
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - tomh009 - 07-01-2024
I suspect just about any bike lane in LA will be a death trap!
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - ijmorlan - 07-02-2024
(07-01-2024, 09:12 PM)bravado Wrote: What happens if the Costco business model goes out of style and there’s a gigantic warehouse void at the bottom? Either way, quite creative.
Of course the bike lane in the render is a death trap…
A huge flat enclosed climate-controlled space in a city will always have many possible uses.
Our one-story commercial plazas are ridiculous. Something like this makes way more sense. Essentially every plaza should have apartments and/or office above.
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - panamaniac - 07-02-2024
(07-02-2024, 07:14 AM)ijmorlan Wrote:(07-01-2024, 09:12 PM)bravado Wrote: What happens if the Costco business model goes out of style and there’s a gigantic warehouse void at the bottom? Either way, quite creative.
Of course the bike lane in the render is a death trap…
A huge flat enclosed climate-controlled space in a city will always have many possible uses.
Our one-story commercial plazas are ridiculous. Something like this makes way more sense. Essentially every plaza should have apartments and/or office above.
I've always thought that any plaza that incorporates a supermarket and a drug store would make an obvious place to build independent-living seniors apartments.
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - nms - 07-05-2024
This an example of the pre-mid 20th Century version of the downtown retail store with housing above, but on steroids. Would this kind of development be possible in Ontario given our current zoning practices?
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - tomh009 - 07-05-2024
Isn't it just a mixed-use building from a zoning point of view?
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - ac3r - 07-06-2024
My exact thoughts. This isn't exactly a new idea. We used to always build buildings where the ground floor is commercial and anything above is residential or offices. I suppose this only differs in that it's a building typically in a big box suburban store located in a suburban area; a Costco first, residential second.
Would be nice to see more projects like this, though. But it's very hard to convince retail stores to take on a project like this.
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - dtkmelissa - 07-06-2024
Vancouver has a Costco downtown with housing above it and a Skytrain station nearby. https://x.com/BrentToderian/status/1428215964357648386
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - tomh009 - 07-06-2024
(07-06-2024, 06:53 AM)ac3r Wrote: My exact thoughts. This isn't exactly a new idea. We used to always build buildings where the ground floor is commercial and anything above is residential or offices. I suppose this only differs in that it's a building typically in a big box suburban store located in a suburban area; a Costco first, residential second.
Would be nice to see more projects like this, though. But it's very hard to convince retail stores to take on a project like this.
And I think that is really the unique point: Costco is actually taking the lead in developing this, including affordable housing.
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - Vojnik_Vahaj - 07-09-2024
Yet another reason to like Costco(I don't like the car-centric aspect though). I hope they do this for ever Costco. I don't think it should be too difficult to retrofit existing locations to be like this. If a shithole country like my homeland can do it, so can a western country.The map is not up to date, but when I was on vacation there with my buddies a year ago, they had closed off a section of the inside to put some support pillars so they can build (probably another hotel) on top of the existing structure.
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - KevinL - 07-09-2024
It would be nice to do this to every Costco, but in most locations the local planning and zoning would forbid it. What we need is a broad renewal of those regulations.
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - Vojnik_Vahaj - 07-09-2024
(07-09-2024, 10:52 AM)KevinL Wrote: It would be nice to do this to every Costco, but in most locations the local planning and zoning would forbid it. What we need is a broad renewal of those regulations.Ofcourse, but where do we not need a broad renewal of regulations?
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - bravado - 07-09-2024
I think it would be quite hard to retrofit existing locations… modern warehouses are truly the simplest steel boxes you can build.
RE: Costco--but with 800 apartments - Vojnik_Vahaj - 07-09-2024
Fair enough, back in ex-yugoslavia all buidlings are built pretty sturdy. When my grandparents come to visit and see houses being built out of wood frames they ask "How do your houses not collapse???"