06-13-2021, 03:53 PM
(06-13-2021, 03:16 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: Crossrides are not permitted to be combined with PXOs under Ontario provincial legislation.
They are permitted when combined with full pedestrian signals as you find at Erb and Peppler.
OK, I just realized I was implicitly imagining a pedestrian signal, not a crosswalk (PXO in modern terminology, even though the concept is not new, no matter what staff say, it having been ubiquitous in Toronto in 1980). Thanks for clarifying.
Quote:Now, you might ask why they aren't using a full pedestrian signal, and there is a very good reason for that.
The region is in control of all traffic signals in the region, even those not on regional roads, and they refuse to place one at the trail. As a result the most the city engineers can do is place a PXO.
So it's mostly the fault of the region and province.
OK, so, seriously, why doesn’t the City reclassify parts of the trail as a street? I don’t really think they’re fighting passionately for the interests of the citizens of the city. Following the letter of the law is the spirit of the time, after all.
Even without resorting to legalistic trickery, why doesn’t City Council formally request of Regional Council to install a proper signal? Bypass the out-of-touch GM shareholders in the roads department entirely? Or has this already been tried?
The least they could do is put in a wide curb cut so it’s easy for bicycles to ride next to the crosswalk (even if, strictly, they’re not supposed to). I’m pretty sure nothing says you can’t have more roll curbs than needed. Actually I’m certain of it, given the kilometres of superfluous roll curbs that have been installed all over the Region.
Actually another question just occurred to me: does the City have the Region run its signals for convenience, or are they forbidden to run their own? If the former, then they should just go ahead and install some of their own. A pedestrian signal on a City road does not need to be synchronized with the rest of the network so there is no problem with being separate from the main traffic control system; it could just be an old-fashioned standalone signal. If the latter, how and when did that get decided and by whom?