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RE: Grand River Transit - danbrotherston - 07-26-2017

(07-26-2017, 01:30 PM)Markster Wrote:
(07-26-2017, 01:06 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: Seems like "Install in buses" is at least complete.  It's been a long time since I've seen a bus without the new terminal.

Route 202 gets all the old and busted buses, it seems. It's maybe up to 50% in my daily commute.

I do kind of wonder how they schedule buses.  The 7 seemed to have none, then all of a sudden, they only have the new one, I wonder if the buses used changed, or they were installed on the same buses, or if the buses rotate all the time and it's just coincidence.

Regardless, I would hope they're close to finished.

RE: Grand River Transit - tomh009 - 07-26-2017

(07-26-2017, 01:48 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: The 7 seemed to have none, then all of a sudden, they only have the new one, I wonder if the buses used changed, or they were installed on the same buses, or if the buses rotate all the time and it's just coincidence.

What, you are not tracking the numbers of the buses you are riding?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_spotting

RE: Grand River Transit - Canard - 07-26-2017

This isn't CPTDB!

RE: Grand River Transit - Canard - 07-26-2017

(07-26-2017, 01:30 PM)Markster Wrote:
(07-26-2017, 01:06 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: Seems like "Install in buses" is at least complete.  It's been a long time since I've seen a bus without the new terminal.

Route 202 gets all the old and busted buses, it seems. It's maybe up to 50% in my daily commute.



RE: Grand River Transit - KevinL - 07-26-2017

75% gels with my experience, certainly.

RE: Grand River Transit - tomh009 - 07-26-2017

(07-26-2017, 03:24 PM)Canard Wrote: This isn't CPTDB!

We might have some readership overlap though!

RE: Grand River Transit - MidTowner - 07-27-2017

I take the 200 daily, and have only experienced the new machines twice. When I asked a driver about it this morning, his explanation was that "I'm from Cambridge. They haven't done Cambridge yet."

RE: Grand River Transit - Canard - 07-27-2017

While it may be that 75% are outfitted, it could very well be that the distribution is not even. All the cheese is on one side of the pizza!

RE: Grand River Transit - DHLawrence - 07-27-2017

There's a shocker.

RE: Grand River Transit - goggolor - 07-28-2017

GRT has confirmed that once fall service starts September 4, the #7 will run on King Street and the 200 iXpress on Park Street (stops at Park/Green and Uptown Waterloo). Apparently both buses can't run on King St because there isn't enough room for the 200 to pass the 7. http://www.grt.ca/Modules/News/index.aspx?newsId=f26d6f99-8276-487b-b501-5e6fc7870e69&feedId=bbee2b8e-91b6-4696-8c3d-481dbf28de8e,24b9d7cd-762a-4496-ad74-4e816cb9adc8,d23e5a74-6488-4978-9740-594267f59ea8,38cb3425-641c-49a2-a83b-f03081ea8431,31820c97-a4b0-4704-ab8b-7c088247077a,69a9e0f5-98d5-4bcc-8f1e-5537cb4c997b

RE: Grand River Transit - MidTowner - 07-28-2017

My reaction when I read that was a four-letter word I wouldn't use here. I feel like riders in Midtown have been jerked around a lot- for a while, the 200 was stopping on Union, with no stops between Weber and Victoria and King and Union. Then, it was stopping at Weber and Guelph to replace service at that stop when the 4 was detoured (though the two routes have significantly different service). When a number of people complained, service was restored (since the winter) to Weber and Guelph.

Now, service is being shifted 1.5 kilometres west to Park. Plenty of 200 users who live near Weber will not be served by that. I understand the desire to serve the hospital with the 200, but I'm not sure of the logic of moving the 7 a few hundred metres east from Park to King, and the 200 fifteen hundred metres west to Park. Why not leave the 7 on Park, and have the 200 use King? It would build some ridership for Ion, and be minimally disruptive to people who have come to rely on the current detours.

RE: Grand River Transit - ijmorlan - 07-28-2017

(07-28-2017, 09:34 AM)goggolor Wrote: GRT has confirmed that once fall service starts September 4, the #7 will run on King Street and the 200 iXpress on Park Street (stops at Park/Green and Uptown Waterloo). Apparently both buses can't run on King St because there isn't enough room for the 200 to pass the 7. http://www.grt.ca/Modules/News/index.aspx?newsId=f26d6f99-8276-487b-b501-5e6fc7870e69&feedId=bbee2b8e-91b6-4696-8c3d-481dbf28de8e,24b9d7cd-762a-4496-ad74-4e816cb9adc8,d23e5a74-6488-4978-9740-594267f59ea8,38cb3425-641c-49a2-a83b-f03081ea8431,31820c97-a4b0-4704-ab8b-7c088247077a,69a9e0f5-98d5-4bcc-8f1e-5537cb4c997b

I’d be more worried about there not being space on Park St. for the 200 to pass all the general traffic, in particular near Glasgow but elsewhere as well.

Anyway, is there any valid reason why the 200 can’t use the LRT right of way?

RE: Grand River Transit - Markster - 07-28-2017

Keep in mind that the ideal state is both routes using King St.

The 200 was never intended to serve people who live near Weber.  The Weber/Guelph stop was always an interim measure that GRT was loathe to introduce because they feared (perhaps rightly) that people would grow to expect it to last in perpetuity.

Route 7's absence from King St has been a pain point for a lot of Midtown residents for a long time, and they are better served by the 7 than the 200.
With the 7 off of Park St, I suspect that Park St is a faster route for the 200 than Weber, so that's why the 200 would be moving there. [EDIT] wow huh. Both routes are exactly 4km. Speed is probably a wash.

I just think it's a shame that they can't use the transit reserved lanes on King St to run both buses back where they belong.

RE: Grand River Transit - MidTowner - 07-28-2017

"Route 7's absence from King St has been a pain point for a lot of Midtown residents for a long time, and they are better served by the 7 than the 200."

This is true. An area that had phenomenal transit service in the form of the 7 and 200 suddenly had very poor service, but the impact was more from the 7's disappearance than the 200's.

Weber would certainly be the faster route over Park for the 200. Park will at some hours of the day be slow (Weber never is).

I have to retract my comment about using the 200 to build ridership patterns to support Ion. I do believe that (give people making residential and other decisions the option to use transit now, before Ion is running), but it was a pretty silly thing to say in this context. Park and Green is extremely close to the GRH station, so if King is really out of the question, that's a great place for the 200 to stop. I would say it should stop at Allen, too.

RE: Grand River Transit - Viewfromthe42 - 07-28-2017

I think a simple answer would be that the 7 stops at different spots near the hospital, and picks up people at a shorter stop spacing along its length. In combination, this allows for the infirm to more easily get from home to the hospital. If you move the 7 to Weber, there would only be one hospital stop (on the 200), increasing their walk at GRH, and either they have to walk to the closest 200 stop at home (increasing their walk), or they need to transfer between the 7 and the 200 (increasing their trip time from the current 7-only situation, and possibly their walk, though most of the logical transfer points wouldn't add much/any aside from an extra on/off of the bus).