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RE: Grand River Transit - tomh009 - 09-27-2017
(09-27-2017, 04:40 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: @tom009 telephone surveys miss millennials like me who don't have a land line.
I don't think GRT is using the web survey as the only source of public input. In fact they are doing the right thing and sampling from many sources.
They do not, if they include mobile numbers. And it's not only millenials: my 80-ish parents, for example, do not have one.
It's good that they have other input, but I find this survey so meaningless that it's frankly embarrassing. Publicizing results of 46 self-selected people ... ugh.
RE: Grand River Transit - Coke6pk - 09-27-2017
(09-27-2017, 04:40 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: @tom009 telephone surveys miss millennials like me who don't have a land line.
They can't get cell numbers? My cell phone receives so many annoying free trip / cruise winning messages, it drives me nuts. And now they are ghosting them with 226 area code numbers....
Coke
RE: Grand River Transit - danbrotherston - 09-27-2017
(09-27-2017, 07:15 PM)Coke6pk Wrote:(09-27-2017, 04:40 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: @tom009 telephone surveys miss millennials like me who don't have a land line.
They can't get cell numbers? My cell phone receives so many annoying free trip / cruise winning messages, it drives me nuts. And now they are ghosting them with 226 area code numbers....
Coke
Those free cruise calls are not actually legal, they're breaking the law, in a way which legitimate polling agencies won't do.
That being said, you *can* call cell numbers, but not with an autodialer, and also, there are a number of other problems with doing so, including being unable to locate a cell phone number to a specific geographic area, like you can with land lines.
http://www.cmoresearch.com/articles/you_can_call_cell_phones.php
When it comes right down too it, telephone surveys aren't as effective as they once were. Like I said, I think GRT is doing the right thing here, by using many different sources, running many public consultations, as well as having online engagement. The raw demographic information from just the online engagement doesn't tell the whole story. I don't think there's a simple and cheap answer to perfect polling.
RE: Grand River Transit - KevinL - 09-28-2017
At least a few buses in the Cambridge fleet are still slumming with the old fareboxes. I guess a September start to the farecard never was realistic.
RE: Grand River Transit - trainspotter139 - 09-29-2017
Yeah it's been a pain for them to try and get all the Cambridge buses done.
RE: Grand River Transit - ijmorlan - 09-29-2017
(09-29-2017, 12:02 PM)trainspotter139 Wrote: Yeah it's been a pain for them to try and get all the Cambridge buses done.
Is there a specific reason why Cambridge is an issue? I don’t know much about GRT’s fleet management practices.
RE: Grand River Transit - nms - 09-29-2017
It's likely that the Cambridge buses were last in line since they are less likely to carry a high-proportion of university students with farebox compatible student cards. There may also only be one team putting in the boxes, so it made more sense to do one facility and then move to the next one.
RE: Grand River Transit - nms - 09-29-2017
(09-26-2017, 11:28 PM)Elmira Guy Wrote: /\ It was posted a few pages back.
https://www.peakdemocracy.com/portals/274/Issue_5366
It is a pretty limited survey in my opinion.
The survey is still active. You can also read the various anonymous comments so see what others think.
RE: Grand River Transit - Pheidippides - 09-30-2017
As of 31-Aug-2017, GRT revenues from fares are down 2.7% the budgeted level:
GRT ridership revenues are currently trending slightly below budgeted levels (2.7%).
RE: Grand River Transit - plam - 09-30-2017
(09-30-2017, 11:38 AM)Pheidippides Wrote: As of 31-Aug-2017, GRT revenues from fares are down 2.7% the budgeted level:
GRT ridership revenues are currently trending slightly below budgeted levels (2.7%).
On the other hand, immediately below that, it says that the Region is not incurring expenditures for operating LRT yet.
RE: Grand River Transit - darts - 09-30-2017
(09-30-2017, 02:42 PM)plam Wrote:(09-30-2017, 11:38 AM)Pheidippides Wrote: As of 31-Aug-2017, GRT revenues from fares are down 2.7% the budgeted level:
GRT ridership revenues are currently trending slightly below budgeted levels (2.7%).
On the other hand, immediately below that, it says that the Region is not incurring expenditures for operating LRT yet.
Which if they were paying for operating costs would be technically true since the LRT is not operating
RE: Grand River Transit - timio - 10-03-2017
Just reading through details on using the EasyGo fare card (http://www.grt.ca/en/fares-passes/use-your-card.aspx) and noticed the caveat that you can pay for multiple people using one card by telling a bus driver how many people are in your group. This initial load follows though as a transfer for the group. Great idea, but it's for bus only.
Why not have it for train too? Add the advertising says, it's one fare, one system. Shouldn't the portable card readers used by fare inspectors be able to read how many riders are traveling on one card?
I can foresee issues when this starts being used.
RE: Grand River Transit - mpd618 - 10-03-2017
(10-03-2017, 10:02 PM)timio Wrote: Why not have it for train too? Add the advertising says, it's one fare, one system. Shouldn't the portable card readers used by fare inspectors be able to read how many riders are traveling on one card?
The fare payment devices wouldn't have a way to specify that, so if you started your trip on LRT it wouldn't work. Which means it's questionable whether it's a good idea to offer that functionality on buses either.
RE: Grand River Transit - KevinL - 10-03-2017
(10-03-2017, 10:13 PM)mpd618 Wrote: The fare payment devices wouldn't have a way to specify that, so if you started your trip on LRT it wouldn't work. Which means it's questionable whether it's a good idea to offer that functionality on buses either.
Is there any way to build that into the ticket vending/reload machines on the platforms?
RE: Grand River Transit - dunkalunk - 10-04-2017
Why not just have the machine/driver issue a transfer?