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RE: Grand River Transit - danbrotherston - 11-02-2018
(11-02-2018, 10:51 AM)timio Wrote: Every developer should take a Design Thinking course. They don't necessarily need the skills of design, but should at least understand the principles behind a good design to help inform the end product.
This is absolutely the case. I can't do good design, but I know bad design when I see it, and I also appreciate the importance of good design. And it applies to more than just software, our bike lanes are a supreme example.
RE: Grand River Transit - robdrimmie - 11-02-2018
I very strongly agree with the importance of cross-discipline knowledge but will submit to my inner pedant and point out that Design Thinking as a concept is more about product ideation and market validation than specifically about product design principles such as user experience, typography, colour theory etc.
RE: Grand River Transit - danbrotherston - 11-02-2018
That's definitely true. But design thinking at least gives lessons in understanding how to approach the problem from the perspective of a customer/user, and how to focus on the user experience, rather than the feature.
Also, I didn't read that sentence to clearly and only saw "Design"
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RE: Grand River Transit - robdrimmie - 11-02-2018
Yep, I think there's a ton of value in developers (and designers) understanding Design Thinking as well.
To refine my above stated poor opinion of eSolutions' work for the governments in Waterloo Region: Time for really strong product development likely isn't provided. That might be a constraint created by the available budget, or it might be the way eSolutions does work generally, I don't have enough insight to say. But across their web and mobile app properties the products are consistently lacking in quality design, user experience and technical stability. They typically solve a fairly naive statement of the problems ("I want to add value to my card" "I want to know when it's a garbage or a yard waste pickup" etc) but if they do deep design thinking, it's rarely if ever visible in the products.
It's the software equivalent of the snow removal contractors clearing out the foot of space between the curb and the sidewalk at bus stops.
RE: Grand River Transit - timc - 11-02-2018
(11-02-2018, 10:51 AM)timio Wrote: Every developer should take a Design Thinking course. They don't necessarily need the skills of design, but should at least understand the principles behind a good design to help inform the end product.
Disagree. Every developer should advocate to have a competent designer assigned to their project. I am terrible at design, and I don't think that any amount of training is going to make me much better at it. Sadly, I'm often forced to make design decisions anyway.
RE: Grand River Transit - robdrimmie - 11-02-2018
We're going to have to start a bike shed thread soon.
RE: Grand River Transit - chutten - 11-02-2018
(11-02-2018, 12:37 PM)robdrimmie Wrote: We're going to have to start a bike shed thread soon. :D
Well, -I- think it should be called the bikeshed thread.
:D
RE: Grand River Transit - Pheidippides - 11-03-2018
Summary of proposed changes for 2019 in Cambridge:
206 iXpress – Coronation - provides a frequent, direct link between West Galt, Preston, Sportsworld Station and Fairway Station. The route would also provide a direct non-transfer ride to ION light rail for some of the densely developed, transit-supportive areas of Cambridge.
Route 52 Coronation - revised to travel between South Cambridge Shopping Centre to Cambridge Centre Station via Dundas Street and Coronation Boulevard. The route would serve Cambridge Memorial Hospital and provide customers a one-seat ride to Cambridge Centre Mall. Renamed 52 Dundas.
Route 55 St. Andrews - revised to connect to 206 iXpress – Coronation while providing service coverage to neighborhoods in West Galt. Renamed 55 Cedar.
Route 57 Blair - combined with Route 111 College Express to provide all-day, direct service between Ainslie Street Terminal to Conestoga College Cambridge Campus and Doon Campus.
Route 61 Fountain - revised to travel on Preston Parkway and replace current service provided by Route 52.
Route 62 Woodside – revised to connect to 206 iXpress – Coronation while providing service coverage to neighborhoods in West Galt. Renamed 62 Grand Ridge.
Route 72 Cherry Blossom - is under review by staff to better serve employees in Cambridge Business Park.
New local route serving Cambridge Business Park would replace current Route 52 service on Cherry Blossom Road. The route would connect Cambridge Business Park to
Cambridge Centre Station.
RE: Grand River Transit - KevinL - 11-03-2018
(11-03-2018, 08:03 PM)D40LF Wrote: That route 52 feels extremely redundant.
Where it overlaps with the 506, it does local stops when the iXpress breezes past. It's like the 7 on King when Ion is there too.
RE: Grand River Transit - danbrotherston - 11-04-2018
Is it just me or is Hespler entirely missing?
RE: Grand River Transit - trainspotter139 - 11-04-2018
(11-04-2018, 10:27 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: Is it just me or is Hespler entirely missing?
This round of changes doesn't affect Hespeler
RE: Grand River Transit - bgb_ca - 11-04-2018
I just noticed a new LCD monitor mounted to a light pole next to the route 7 stop @ Conestoga mall. It was not on, but maybe it's going to be a real time display like they have inside Charles terminal?
RE: Grand River Transit - Viewfromthe42 - 11-05-2018
Now, if the 206 sees more usage than the iON bus route, we'd have a good argument that the stay-off-King, stay-away-from-Preston LRT route folks aren't observing real trends.
RE: Grand River Transit - danbrotherston - 11-05-2018
(11-05-2018, 12:23 PM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: Now, if the 206 sees more usage than the iON bus route, we'd have a good argument that the stay-off-King, stay-away-from-Preston LRT route folks aren't observing real trends.
To be honest, after looking at a map, I have wondered if the "Straight down King and Coronation" option wouldn't be better. I suspect it would be harder politically, and have less development potential, but it's more direct, visiting areas that are probably already transit oriented.
But I'm not an expert on Cambridge, so I cannot say for sure, but I do suspect the lower development potential is the real killer.
RE: Grand River Transit - darts - 11-05-2018
(11-05-2018, 12:23 PM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: Now, if the 206 sees more usage than the iON bus route, we'd have a good argument that the stay-off-King, stay-away-from-Preston LRT route folks aren't observing real trends.
the 206 is pretty much the existing 52 but with a little bit that goes off on a separate small loop. I can't imagine it would be much different other than they can say something else is ion