Buying Canadian (and not American)

[tomh009]

people avoiding the US isn't going to amount to any difference other than make you feel better about yourself

"Whether I avoid US products will not matter to US businesses because I'm just one person"

"Whether I recycle my plastics will not matter to the environment because I'm just one person"

"Whether I use the 401 instead of GO will not matter to the traffic because I'm just one person"

"Whether I reduce my carbon footprint will not matter to the climate because I'm just one person"

"Whether I vote in the election or not will not matter to the result because I'm just one person"

Right.

[bravado]

That doesn't make a lot of sense. Many more Canadians go to Florida and spend much more money there than do people from Britain.

I'm not saying that the Florida economy would not notice if travel from Britain dropped 10%. But obviously it would have a smaller impact if travel from Canada did.

You would think, but that's wrong.  The amount of people from Britain that own real-estate in Florida is crazy.  Ask any property management company and they will tell you.  The difference is that Canadians typically rent out their property for a shorter duration then stay there themselves.  British people rent their properties almost all year around.

Why would you say something so confident and yet easily disproven

https://www.nar.realtor/research-and-sta...in-florida

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1263...f%20buyers.

https://www.floridarealtors.org/tools-re...le-florida

https://selectflorida.org/wp-content/upl...lorida.pdf

[plam]

You would think, but that's wrong.  The amount of people from Britain that own real-estate in Florida is crazy.  Ask any property management company and they will tell you.  The difference is that Canadians typically rent out their property for a shorter duration then stay there themselves.  British people rent their properties almost all year around.

Why would you say something so confident and yet easily disproven

https://www.nar.realtor/research-and-sta...in-florida

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1263...f%20buyers.

https://www.floridarealtors.org/tools-re...le-florida

https://selectflorida.org/wp-content/upl...lorida.pdf

Thanks for the links! Sometimes it feels like we're in a post-fact era. But facts are still real and they still matter.

There is also a lot of pro-fossil gas FUD going around everywhere, including here I've noticed, and also in Australia, e.g. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-28/g.../104966938.

[dtkvictim]

You would think, but that's wrong.  The amount of people from Britain that own real-estate in Florida is crazy.  Ask any property management company and they will tell you.  The difference is that Canadians typically rent out their property for a shorter duration then stay there themselves.  British people rent their properties almost all year around.

Why would you say something so confident and yet easily disproven

https://www.nar.realtor/research-and-sta...in-florida

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1263...f%20buyers.

https://www.floridarealtors.org/tools-re...le-florida

https://selectflorida.org/wp-content/upl...lorida.pdf

But did you try asking any property management company? They'll tell you.

I'm not sure I understand the original argument anyways. Wouldn't part-time Canadian residents bring in more foreign (tourism) cash and be more likely to rent out to other shorter term tourists, vs these alleged long term British-owned rentals which would be much more likely to just be renting out to locals?

[danbrotherston]

Why would you say something so confident and yet easily disproven

https://www.nar.realtor/research-and-sta...in-florida

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1263...f%20buyers.

https://www.floridarealtors.org/tools-re...le-florida

https://selectflorida.org/wp-content/upl...lorida.pdf

But did you try asking any property management company? They'll tell you.

I'm not sure I understand the original argument anyways. Wouldn't part-time Canadian residents bring in more foreign (tourism) cash and be more likely to rent out to other shorter term tourists, vs these alleged long term British-owned rentals which would be much more likely to just be renting out to locals?

I'm not sure I get your point. Asking a few property management companies would give you a few anecdotes. But the links are to market research firms which collect actual market data.

As for the original argument, yeah, it's weird and absurd. Even if British tourists were spending more (which they likely do because travelling to Florida from the UK is much more expensive), there are still orders of magnitude more travellers from Canada...and that is still only one state...and the state most likely to see international travellers because of Disney Land. I guarantee you there are more Canadians with long term stays in Arizona than there are any from any other country, possibly even every other country combined.

This belief that we don't have any influence in this relationship with the US stems from the American view that they don't even notice Canada...which is true, but as so many American beliefs not based in reality.

[dtkvictim]

But did you try asking any property management company? They'll tell you.

I'm not sure I get your point. Asking a few property management companies would give you a few anecdotes. But the links are to market research firms which collect actual market data.

You would think, but that's wrong.  The amount of people from Britain that own real-estate in Florida is crazy.  Ask any property management company and they will tell you.