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Cycling in Waterloo Region
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Cycling in Waterloo Region
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Yesterday, 10:30 AM
(Yesterday, 09:49 AM)neonjoe Wrote: Plan to repurpose driving lanes on Benton and Frederick for a cyclists. This is the single project that I've been looking forward to the longest, as it's a route that I travel daily. I'm so happy to see this come to fruition next year. Thanks to Dan for his advocacy on this one!
Yesterday, 11:05 AM
(Yesterday, 09:49 AM)neonjoe Wrote: Plan to repurpose driving lanes on Benton and Frederick for a cyclists. Yes, I did, quite some years ago: https://betterbenton.netlify.app/ I'm glad to see that someone is finally coming around to looking at it, although I guess we'll have to wait till closer to the August date for actual details on the plan, although given they are scoping the plan to the areas outside the central core where the LRT runs, I doubt they've actually absorbed the point I was getting to in the proposal. Specifically, since the LRT section is recently rebuilt, and has an LRT, that area won't be rebuilt for many many years (probably 50 or more) so any design must work with the existing roadway there, which is difficult because one part is not four lanes wide. So I proposed a a two way cycle track that could be fit on the north side (which has only one through lane) and keeping two way car traffic on the south side. Given they have not included the central section in the project, I suspect they will simply painted cycle lanes on each side of the road of the rest of it, which frankly, is so simple and obvious that it should have happened 3 years ago when I proposed it. (And I'm sure they'll promise that just as soon as the central section needs reconstruction, the two halves will be connected up...sometime in 2060 or so). Provided virtual meetings are still happening I guess I get to decide if I still want to stay up late enough to attend the meeting and give my 2c. I guess I should wait till the actual design is proposed to pass judgment, but my hunch is still that it's the kind of thing that will remind me how mediocre the region is--and not necessarily that it's going to be bad, just that they are going for the easy design, that doesn't actually solve the hard problems and just uses free extra space, and yet even so it somehow still took years and years to propose and do.
Yesterday, 11:07 AM
(Yesterday, 10:30 AM)the_conestoga_guy Wrote:(Yesterday, 09:49 AM)neonjoe Wrote: Plan to repurpose driving lanes on Benton and Frederick for a cyclists. Thanks! Glad it's coming. Sorry for poo pooing it too much lol. Out of curiosity, what sections do you ride? Again, I felt that the most important feature was being able to connect across the core because that is where there is the least existing infra, but it's possible there are other trips that I am missing that would be valuable too. 
Yesterday, 11:18 AM
(Yesterday, 11:05 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: I'm glad to see that someone is finally coming around to looking at it, although I guess we'll have to wait till closer to the August date for actual details on the plan, although given they are scoping the plan to the areas outside the central core where the LRT runs, I doubt they've actually absorbed the point I was getting to in the proposal. They are planning to rebuild the entire street (except presumably the LRT tracks) from Courtland to Benton, and that project will enable the cycling infra between Charles and Weber. I don't think this will take 50 years, parts of Benton are really desperate for a rebuild. Quote:Phase 2
Yesterday, 12:06 PM
(Yesterday, 11:07 AM)danbrotherston Wrote:(Yesterday, 10:30 AM)the_conestoga_guy Wrote: This is the single project that I've been looking forward to the longest, as it's a route that I travel daily. I'm so happy to see this come to fruition next year. Thanks to Dan for his advocacy on this one! I personally use the Frederick end of the route daily. As far as sharing the road is concerned, it's a fairly peaceful area. But I've still had a couple of incidents where I've needed to swerve or hit the brakes to save myself from inattentive drivers. I responded to the EngageWR survey and requested that they include a contraflow painted bike lane on Ellen St E (between Frederick and Mansion). It's a small detail, but it would allow the whole West-side of Frederick to safely access cycling infrastructure without needing to share traffic on a bus road. I think you had something similar in your original mock-up.
Yesterday, 01:30 PM
(Yesterday, 11:18 AM)tomh009 Wrote:(Yesterday, 11:05 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: I'm glad to see that someone is finally coming around to looking at it, although I guess we'll have to wait till closer to the August date for actual details on the plan, although given they are scoping the plan to the areas outside the central core where the LRT runs, I doubt they've actually absorbed the point I was getting to in the proposal. I by "that area" I specifically meant the LRT section...I agree the rest of the road is in need of reconstruction. It's why I felt it was important to design it so that it could fit in the existing LRT section, because there is such a disconnect in time between reconstructions of the different sections. 
Yesterday, 04:32 PM
(Yesterday, 09:49 AM)neonjoe Wrote: Plan to repurpose driving lanes on Benton and Frederick for a cyclists. Benton St traffic counts 16626 BENTON ST (Regional Road 6) AT COURTLAND AVE 6316 BENTON ST (Regional Road 6) BTWN COURTLAND & St. George 8033 BENTON ST (Regional Road 6) AT St. George St 6444 BENTON ST (Regional Road 6) BTWN Church & St. George 7871 BENTON ST (Regional Road 6) AT Church St 6572 BENTON ST (Regional Road 6) BTWN CHARLES & Church 15416 BENTON ST (Regional Road 6) AT CHARLES ST 8735 BENTON ST (Regional Road 6) BTWN CHARLES & Hall's Lane 9722 BENTON ST (Regional Road 6) AT Hall's Lane 8709 BENTON ST (Regional Road 6) BTWN Hall's Lane & King 14973 BENTON ST/FREDERICK ST (Regional Road 6) AT King St What is it with the Region and only ever painted bike gutters? There's a 20m right-of-way to work with here. https://streetmix.net/coryca/1/benton-st-kitchener-on
Yesterday, 05:09 PM
(Yesterday, 04:32 PM)Bytor Wrote:(Yesterday, 09:49 AM)neonjoe Wrote: Plan to repurpose driving lanes on Benton and Frederick for a cyclists. How is this measured? I'm confused how the major intersections record so much more traffic than the sections between, unless this is counting traffic crossing over but not using Benton St.
Yesterday, 05:55 PM
(Yesterday, 05:09 PM)dtkvictim Wrote:(Yesterday, 04:32 PM)Bytor Wrote: Benton St traffic counts Yes, the intersections, e.g. "16626 BENTON ST (Regional Road 6) AT COURTLAND AVE" are every vehicle going through it, regardless of which direction they came from, whether they turned or not. If you check an intersection and the 4 "arms" around it, the intersection count is roughly 2x that of any arm, and roughly the same each pair of opposite arms. Charles: Queen to Benton 8,179 + Benton to Eby 7,147 = 15326 Benton: Church to Charles 6,572 + Charles to Halls Lane 8,735 = 15307 Benton at Charles 15,416 |
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