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It's not truly suburban like Brigadoon or Rummelhardt, but it's like 15 minutes away from downtown.
Anyway, I noticed on the weekend the building is entirely gone now. It looks like they ground up the majority of it as there are giant piles of dirt, gravel and crushed brick. This will be quite infill development for this area. I wonder if it'll spur any further development in this area, it really needs some to clean it up a bit. There has been an empty building lot near Freshco for years, one off 9th Ave and that one on River that used to be the Catholic school until maybe 12 years ago. Maybe one day they'll get rid of those other two dirty hotels that are at Kinzie/King East.
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Ya it's not really either downtown or suburban is it?
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09-02-2020, 11:11 AM
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Well, this is what the Downtown BIA considers to be downtown. Downtown BIA Boundary Map
Here is the City's downtown map.
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That's the Downtown Business Improvement Area. Doesn't include Google, Station Park or other midtown projects, either -- or Drewlo or Market Flats on the east side.
In any case, this project is neither downtown or suburban. Maybe we should change the "downtown" forum to be the "urban" forum?
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It doesn't matter to me. It is just that I was looking for the thread in order to post and it wasn't where I expected it to be.
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(09-02-2020, 03:11 PM)tomh009 Wrote: That's the Downtown Business Improvement Area. Doesn't include Google, Station Park or other midtown projects, either -- or Drewlo or Market Flats on the east side.
In any case, this project is neither downtown or suburban. Maybe we should change the "downtown" forum to be the "urban" forum?
“Urban” would be fine, but I’ve always taken the WRC “Downtown” to be shorthand for exactly that.
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Titling the form Urban has my vote. Some developments in here are definitely not downtown, like the Schneiders development or this one, but they're still in pretty old areas of the city and could be considered urban developments, as opposed to something built around Doon South, which would definitely be Suburban.
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The dividing line should continue to be the expressway, where applicable, imo.
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(09-03-2020, 12:36 PM)panamaniac Wrote: The dividing line should continue to be the expressway, where applicable, imo. I'd say absolutely with the exception of the space around fairway mall. That is almost certainly urban imo. However, past that area (towards sportsworld, chicopee, and homer watson) is all definitely suburban.
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(09-03-2020, 02:10 PM)Bjays93 Wrote: (09-03-2020, 12:36 PM)panamaniac Wrote: The dividing line should continue to be the expressway, where applicable, imo. I'd say absolutely with the exception of the space around fairway mall. That is almost certainly urban imo. However, past that area (towards sportsworld, chicopee, and homer watson) is all definitely suburban. I think we have very different defintions of "urban" and "suburban".
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Suburb and urban are not antonyms. Urban and rural are antonyms. Suburb and urb are antonyms.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suburb
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(09-03-2020, 02:22 PM)robdrimmie Wrote: Suburb and urban are not antonyms. Urban and rural are antonyms. Suburb and urb are antonyms.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suburb
True, although I still think of the Fairway strip as the epicentre of Kitchener suburbia. And I still think the expressway as the dividing line makes sense.
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Fairway the epicentre of suburbia? I've never thought that. There isn't too much residential around Fairway. There is the Kingsdale neighbourhood north of the mall (which is so old the streets are numbered avenues), but everything else is past Homer Watson. The rest is just factories, fields and a couple houses around Hidden Valley. I've always thought of the Boardwalk as the epicentre of suburbia for this city. It's so far away from anything and getting around demands a car.
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(09-03-2020, 02:44 PM)ac3r Wrote: Fairway the epicentre of suburbia? I've never thought that. There isn't too much residential around Fairway. There is the Kingsdale neighbourhood north of the mall (which is so old the streets are numbered avenues), but everything else is past Homer Watson. The rest is just factories, fields and a couple houses around Hidden Valley. I've always thought of the Boardwalk as the epicentre of suburbia for this city. It's so far away from anything and getting around demands a car.
Boardwalk definitely the new epicentre. Fairway the old retail centre around which residences drove to get to.
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(09-01-2020, 12:40 PM)ac3r Wrote: Maybe one day they'll get rid of those other two dirty hotels that are at Kinzie/King East.
Oh man, that could never happen soon enough. They should have been removed 40 years ago.
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