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(06-03-2026, 08:08 PM)SammyOES Wrote: There’s also just things like marketing. A “luxury motor coach” from the airport treated as a flight markets better than heading to the bus terminal down town. (I’m not saying the product actually is better coming from the airport vs a bus station, but I would bet heavily it is treated that way in aggregate by AC customers).
There are logistics things like a bus from the airport east of the city has less traffic issues from the city and has lots of routes around anything that does develop.
There are likely a set of computer system issues resolved by treating the departure point as an airport rather than creating a “fake” airport somewhere else.
That’s just off the top of my head. I guarantee there are dozens of other important factors I don’t know about because I’m not part of the team working on this.
I do not think "we'd have to do data entry in a computer for our system" is at all relevant. There are already flights that include train stations as their destination, INCLUDING in Canada, the Ottawa -> Montreal service operates as a code share with AC and also departs from the Ottawa train station.
You assume that I am not aware of how the world works, that a team (really, it's not a team's sole focus) doesn't think about their decisions. I'm not a child, I'm very familiar with how the world works. I'm not accusing anyone of malice or even incompetence in this case. I don't know what justifications they used for this choice. What I am saying is that they have made the wrong decision here.
The additional cost to moving to a better location is much smaller than the benefit of doing so. And return to the Ottawa example. I am certain the logistics of renting space at the Ottawa train station is at least as difficult as KW. And the Ottawa airport is better connected to the city than KW (Or Kingston for that matter, where the bus to the airport from Toronto is literally the ONLY scheduled commercial "flight", how insane is that!).
The point is, there is no technical reason PREVENTING this. Yes, there are no doubt logistical challenges making it more complicated. I won't speculate on why they make this decision, only that I believe it is the wrong decision. You obviously believe otherwise, but you have no more reason to believe that then I do.
SammyOES Wrote:I know I need to go back to ignoring this stuff, but maybe, just maybe, the people running the business and understand all the costs and benefits of their market are making the right decision for their business for reasons that you don’t understand.
As you say, they could easily run buses to other locations. And yet they are not. It’s possible it’s a bunch of morons running the show who can’t figure out basic business decisions. Or maybe you’re like the blind men and the elephant and you just don’t have visibility into a bunch of operational and business considerations.
This is a shitty unproductive take here. If you feel my response is not worth engaging with, then don't. If you do engage, then clearly you feel it is worth engaging with. Don't start by telling me I'm not worth you're time.
Now, I am not accusing anyone of being a moron that's a straw man argument (I do save that for when I understand more about the system, for example, with road and traffic design).
Your only justification for believing different from me seems to be "I trust the people making the decisions"...I don't know about you, but nothing in my life has given me the confidence that decision makers at large companies reliably make good decisions, or that they're immune to biases (like for example people running an airline, might not fully appreciate the value of not arriving at an airport). In fact, I frequently see (and saw in my own experiences) bad decisions being made by decision makers all. the. time.

