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2015 Federal Election
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(10-16-2015, 11:06 AM)panamaniac Wrote: I'm not sure how you figure.

One calculus: Stephen Maher: Alberta NDP won a false majority because of our outmoded electoral system
Quote:But the Alberta NDP supports PR. The party ran on it in the last election, and in January, its platform, which is still cached online, was still promising that an NDP government would “set up a system of proportional representation.”

In February, they quietly dropped that sentence, and they did not campaign on PR.

Federal NDP MP Craig Scott, who is pushing a sensible and detailed PR proposal, will nudge Notley to move, but she knows that if she puts PR in place, she will never get another majority.

This is why we don’t have proportional representation.

Although it is clearly superior to the first-past-the-post system, it is worse for governing parties, and only their votes count.

If the provincial NDP can renege on electoral reform in a province like AB where they'd been locked out of government for decades, then surely the federal Liberals and NDP can. 

Quote:It's the Liberal platform that sets out the strongest proposals for Governance/Democratic reform.  I don't know how much stronger the commitment would be under an NDP-supported Liberal minority government.

Both Justin and Tom have been running on platforms that include electoral reform. Whoever of the two becomes PM will be reminded of that commitment by the other. Indeed if the two decide to form some sort of informal alliance or formal coalition I'd like to believe (!? Wink) that electoral reform will be included in whatever deal they make. 

And of course if Liz May wins enough seats to become a factor, i.e. holds the balance of power, in this minority government we can be certain that electoral reform will be a non-negotiable condition for her support.
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