08-08-2020, 07:17 PM
(08-08-2020, 06:30 AM)plam Wrote:(08-08-2020, 01:26 AM)jeffster Wrote: While I don't think we'll get down to zero until a vaccine is finalized, I think we can at least have a somewhat "new" normal until then.
I am quite sure that masks help but they aren't a panacea (and it's not clear to me that there will be a single panacea). Victoria in Australia has had masks for a while but is catching up to Ontario. The new lockdown might ensure they don't make it quite to Ontario's cumulative count.
https://theconversation.com/two-weeks-of...igh-143898
Education: there's being an expert in one field which may not transfer to other fields, except in the ability to form theories and compelling arguments that are wrong.
Some people don't believe in objective truth. I do more often than not, but it's not always 100% clear. Thinking in probabilities is often closer to being correct.
And there is evolving expert opinion, which is to be expected to some extent.
From the article you posted, it's been mandatory for 2 weeks. It really sounds like community transmission among friends and family and per co-workers. My guess is they were too late to the game with masks. To add, article states that many were not following the mask order. And people that are sick were still going to work.
This last part surprised me. It's been mandated across Canada that if you're sick, stay home. Every workplace in Canada has this protocol in place.
I believe if everyone simply followed some basic rules, wearing a mask, avoiding contact with anyone if sick, and social distancing where possible, infection will be greatly mitigated. And this it seems is where it failed in Australia (at least the State of Victoria). We look in Ontario though, our numbers are still slowly dropping even while opening.
Though we still need to make further changes, that is, more businesses need to make masks mandatory for entry. Masks prevent you from getting others sick if your infected. It's agreed they are limited at preventing you from getting sick from an infected, if they're not wearing masks. Also whenever I am out, I still see a few ladies not wearing, and the odd man having his chin covered only. Accommodation is going to be key when dealing people not wearing masks, as we all know they'll use an excuse that 95% of the time isn't valid in their situation. But they need to be kept out of enclosed spots with a lot of foot traffic.