12-04-2020, 07:53 PM
(12-04-2020, 06:16 PM)jeffster Wrote:(12-04-2020, 11:39 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: I mean, we could quibble over points, D+/D- there's wiggle room, but ultimately, this pandemic is a pretty serious indictment of the latest right wing governments and their supporters.
That's the silliest thing I have read. It has zero bearing on it, other than what's happening in the USA, and Trump is an outlier.
New Brunswick and PEI, have 2 of the 3 lowest rates of covid-19 in Canada and they're both Conservative. British Columbia, which is considered far left of centre is higher than Ontario. Political strip, no bearing (these are current 7 day average).
Regardless of that, we have a federal government that IS very Liberal, and being propped up be an even further to the left NDP, they could control it more if they wanted to.
When people look at the US, they DO blame Trump for the high covid-19 numbers, as they should, as he's an idiot. Yet if Canadians are going to blame Trump for his inactions, we should hold Trudeau to the same level of accountability.
Aside from Alberta and maybe Quebec, I think the provincial governments have done all they could. There really is no winning here.
And to add, high covid-19 numbers in Ontario are coming from *Liberal* electoral districts, not Conservative. Toronto is the perfect example.
Trump is not an outlier, you have a strong trend, Johnson, Bolsinaro, there are other examples.
These latest right wing extremists governments have nothing to do with historic progressive conservative values. And it has little to do with the excessively simplified "left/right, liberal/conservative" dichotimy.
As for Toronto, it is plenty conservative. They elected John Tory repeatedly. Just because someone calls themselves a liberal doesn't mean they aren't conservative.