01-18-2021, 09:31 PM
(01-18-2021, 04:26 PM)danbrotherston Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:43 PM)dtkvictim Wrote: It's absurd to me that they would acknowledge the dangers of putting a scooter in mixed traffic, and the dangers of being forced to ride in the gutter, but think that it's completely acceptable to put bicycles in that situation. They also state that motorists might not know how to react to a scooter being on the road as though it would be any different than a bike.
Obviously I don't think e-scooters and bicycles should be in mixed traffic unless than observed speed limit is <30km/h, but for roads without infrastructure there isn't much you can do other than letting them ride on the sidewalk. The fact this survey treats e-scooters and bicycles any different from each other shows there isn't any logical consistency in the decision making.
This should be a rule for transportation engineers, not for cyclists.
In fact, most rules should be for transportation engineers, not transportation users.
Yes, I was stating it from that perspective. I'm not exactly mad at the e-scooter proposals, I'm just upset that it's acknowledging some truths about all vulnerable road users that don't seem to make it into policy affecting the other vulnerable users.
(01-18-2021, 06:50 PM)tomh009 Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:43 PM)dtkvictim Wrote: It's absurd to me that they would acknowledge the dangers of putting a scooter in mixed traffic, and the dangers of being forced to ride in the gutter, but think that it's completely acceptable to put bicycles in that situation. They also state that motorists might not know how to react to a scooter being on the road as though it would be any different than a bike.
One difference between bicyclists in traffic and e-scooter riders in traffic is that there is a good chance that the latter will be far less experienced.
This may be true but I'm not sure it's a valid argument. Just because the proportion of experienced/competent riders to inexperienced riders may be different doesn't mean policy should cater to the lowest common denominator for only one mode of transportation and not the other. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise if you are able to point out other real world analogues where we do this.

