Road design, safety and Vision Zero

[danbrotherston]

I would also bet some money that no amber ticket has been issued to a driver not involved in a collision in the history of our province. Now, that's a long time, so I wouldn't bet a lot of money, but I think it's not an unlikely reality.

Heard from a cop that they sometimes ask "was that a red or amber" and proceed to give a ticket for an amber.

I mean, that's another type of discretion....like when the police measure your speed at x and then give you a ticket for < x.

I guess I should qualify, no one has ever gotten a ticket where the officer believes the person ran the amber, only when they are giving them a break.

I don't much like it in general, because people who fight tickets (i.e., have resources and look right) are liable to get it decreased even further.

Just another source of bias that automated enforcement doesn't have.