05-23-2021, 06:23 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-23-2021, 06:29 PM by danbrotherston.)
(05-23-2021, 05:21 PM)ac3r Wrote:(05-23-2021, 11:31 AM)tomh009 Wrote: We've discussed this a number of times already and I won't convince ac3r and I also don't expect to be convinced.
And, finally, grade-separated stations will always be less convenient for passengers, no matter how many elevators or escalators are put in.
Correct, I won't haha.
I think less convenient for passengers is debatable. If I'm waiting 15 minutes for a train and it's pouring rain, extremely windy, -36 Celsius with frigid wind gusts or +36 with incredibly humidity, I'd rather be standing underground. I wouldn't say taking an escalator, elevator or the stairs is really that inconvenient.
I'm at ground level right now, but I am neither hot nor cold, I am in a climate controlled room. You do not need to be under ground or elevated to have climate controlled transit shelters. And in fact, many elevated and some underground stations are neither heated nor cooled. If you've been in the NYC subway in the summer, it is stifling, and I remember more than a few days suffering in the hot sun on elevated platforms in California waiting for a BART train.
But taking the time and effort to climb stairs or wait for an elevator does make a transit system less convenient for me as a passenger, and that is fundamental to grade separation.