08-27-2021, 02:22 PM
(08-27-2021, 02:04 PM)jeffster Wrote: unable = unwilling -- it simply means it's not absolutely mandatory. Anyone 'unwilling' will fall under 'unable', even as far as some bringing up informed consent.
Not a lawyer here, but at plain language “unable” is very different from “unwilling”. “Unable” means medical counterindication, period, or unable to get to a vaccination location (which shouldn’t be an issue in this country). It’s also reasonable, in principle, to grant cultural objections (to a specific vaccine, not to vaccination in general), but I don’t think there are any (anybody know of a counter example?).
“Unwilling” means the mandate isn’t a mandate, the thing that is supposedly “required” isn’t, etc.
The informed consent discussion on the linked page sounds to me like it’s going way too far in the direction of “some people might be vaccinated, some not, whatever, you just have to deal with that”. It’s not really an individual choice in the first place. Doctors should be able to require their patients to be vaccinated (subject to the exemptions discussed above), or find another doctor. Don’t like it? Tough, it’s not the only rule we all have to follow.
I don’t want to go back to the more authoritarian governing style that used to be almost universal, but it did have some advantages: everybody understood that everybody just has to do certain things and that individuals don’t really get to have their complaints (or whining, as it might be, in the case of vaccinations) heard.

