12-15-2021, 06:59 PM
(12-15-2021, 04:32 PM)danbrotherston Wrote:Vaccines are ineffective though. Look no farther than the Calgary flames where literally everyone on their team is currently sick and was either double or triple vaxxed.(12-15-2021, 03:49 PM)jeffster Wrote: I think the Omicron variant is going to end up wiping out this disease.
This is a mild variant, by all accounts. The vaccines aren't useful at protecting against infection. They are useful at preventing hospitalizations, but that might be a moot point.
I do expect the numbers to get really high, but I think we need to suck up this one. Get your booster if you qualify, for most, that will be in the new year.
This is frustrating.
These things you say, are either not known, or not true.
Vaccines are absolutely useful for preventing infection. And it is not known if Omicron is mild, but all the preliminary data showing could be mild still shows it is not mild enough to not result in serious impacts on our healthcare system.
I'm not sold on how mild it is yet, but one thing that we don't need studies to confirm is that the vaccines are not super effect again this variant at least when it comes to preventing illness. Hospitalization remains largely unknown and South Africa is not a good case study due to their vaccination rate.
Pfizer did however come out and say 2 shots are only 30% effective against preventing omicron infection, which anecdotally still seems high.

