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(06-13-2016, 10:40 PM)mpd618 Wrote: It depends on how uncertain you view the outcome. Kitchener and Waterloo are undeniably reshaping the city around the line; whatever the opening day ridership (and it isn't predicted to be much more than combined corridor bus ridership), it is already helping achieve the land use goals that the Region has.
Ottawa has gotten funding for phase 2 without having opened phase 1 of their proper LRT line. However, the Region of Waterloo maybe has not gone asking for funds yet.
I wouldn’t know how certain the provincial government might view the ridership forecasts, but obviously they’re not certain- forecasts are forecasts, and they can be low or high, and usually are to some degree. Does the Region have an ask for the province? We’d probably have to go through extensive debate about that, given that phase one funding was split three-ways, and since then we have seen LRT systems in neighbouring cities funded 100%. I would expect the Region would need to vote to formally say it desires 100% funding for phase two.
That last part might not be strictly right, and I did say that the province could easily choose to announce that it’s allocated $x to phase two. I’ll be surprised if that happens before Ion launches. Maybe it will, though, if the launch is pushed back past the 2018 provincial election.
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(06-14-2016, 06:32 AM)Pheidippides Wrote: I suspect that the whatever the announcement is, it is GO related. Just saw a train pass (at 10:15am). Either they're really, really late today, or it's a prop for a GO announcement. (I'm betting on another re-announcement of moving to 4 Toronto-bound trains, rather than 2WAD.)
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Not to be too cynical, but I won't be surprised if the announcement is not as big as we all hope it will be.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong though.
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The announcement is mostly GO related.
kps has posted the deets in the GO thread:
http://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/s...2#pid22932
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Mostly GO related, but $43 million for the transit hub is great news!
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(06-14-2016, 11:48 AM)timc Wrote: Mostly GO related, but $43 million for the transit hub is great news!
Yes it is. Now for the region to step up with their part to get the project moving.
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(06-14-2016, 12:00 PM)tomh009 Wrote: (06-14-2016, 11:48 AM)timc Wrote: Mostly GO related, but $43 million for the transit hub is great news!
Yes it is. Now for the region to step up with their part to get the project moving.
$43 million is the full budget, the region won't need to contribute any additional money to the hub.
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(06-14-2016, 12:45 PM)taylortbb Wrote: (06-14-2016, 12:00 PM)tomh009 Wrote: Yes it is. Now for the region to step up with their part to get the project moving.
$43 million is the full budget, the region won't need to contribute any additional money to the hub.
The region owns the land, so without regional action to get the project under way, nothing will happen.
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(06-14-2016, 12:45 PM)taylortbb Wrote: $43 million is the full budget, the region won't need to contribute any additional money to the hub.
How can we know the hub will cost exactly $43 million when we (ie, the Region - everyone) don't even know what it will look like?
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(06-14-2016, 05:02 PM)Canard Wrote: (06-14-2016, 12:45 PM)taylortbb Wrote: $43 million is the full budget, the region won't need to contribute any additional money to the hub.
How can we know the hub will cost exactly $43 million when we (ie, the Region - everyone) don't even know what it will look like?
The transit portion of the transit hub and transit-related infrastructure in the corridor has been budgeted at this amount. The mixed-use portion above the transit hub would be up to the development partner based off proposals currently in RFQ (request for qualifications).
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Track going in across Duke!
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Traffic signals + LRT signals are up at Charles / Water...
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...as well as Charles / Gaukel
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Sidewalks going in alongside the Benton parking garage
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Construction on Duke has reached Frederick. A closure here should be imminent.
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Underground work still ongoing at Duke / Young
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Duke / College just about ready to be rebuilt
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Willis is being paved this morning in Uptown near the parkade.
Everyone move to the back of the bus and we all get home faster.
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Facebook reminded me that 5 years ago tonight, Regional Council voted 9-2 in favour of building Light Rail in Waterloo Region!
We have come so far, and are so close to the finish line!
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I remember that night well - there was a party at McCabes afterward, where we also watched the Bruins beat the Canucks to take the Stanley Cup...
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