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Another unfortunate utility box placement, this time at King and William at the edge of the public square:
There must be an engineering reason for these types of utility boxes not to have been placed more logically; I mean it can't be the expense of moving them 1m or 2m that's stopping them (especially in the grand scheme of the total project cost).
Question: Wouldn't it be best, at this point, to wait and see if the first train fits the platforms as Bombardier has promised their design will instead of shaving millimetres off everywhere?
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10-28-2016, 10:32 AM
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No, because engineering is not "trial and error". There's a reason for tolerances. If a company subcontracts the build of their design (as is here) and it's out of tolerance, it's up to that supplier to correct their mistake.
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(10-28-2016, 08:00 AM)Pheidippides Wrote: Another unfortunate utility box placement, this time at King and William at the edge of the public square:
There must be an engineering reason for these types of utility boxes not to have been placed more logically; I mean it can't be the expense of moving them 1m or 2m that's stopping them (especially in the grand scheme of the total project cost).
No there doesn’t. They might just not care.
At UW they closed the upper level of the DC-MC bridge for about a year when M3 was built, in order to tie in the M3 bridge. Yes, you heard right, a full year. It is simply not credible that they actually needed to do that — except for removing some of the baseboard heaters and adjusting the floor grade, the work didn’t even touch anything except the wall facing M3. So they could have closed for a couple (OK, I’ll be generous, and say “a few”) weeks to adjust the heaters and the floor, then built construction hoarding to narrow the hallway down for the remaining time required to open up the wall and complete the bridge.
Sometimes the designers just aren’t looking at all the criteria they should be.
Having said that, it is certainly possible that the utility box placement is more constrained than seems obvious.
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Sometimes outside observers and "armchair engineers" have no idea what kind of restrictions a designer/engineer was given. It's impossible for any of us to understand or know the dozens of factors that went into why that box is where it is.
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At the same time, engineers are often completely oblivious about factors they aren't directly concerned with. It's ultimately a management issue concerning integrating necessary stakeholders early enough in the design process.
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10-28-2016, 12:12 PM
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We generally know all the factors. You have to make decisions about which ones trump others, what your budgets or constraints allow, and then move forward - often knowing that someone won't be happy with the end result.
What, for example, could designers possibly do at the corner of Queen/Charles? There is literally no practical solution there.
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I was at City Café today. Spoke with the construction workers. They advised that the embedded rails at Ottawa onto Charles will be poured on Tuesday.
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10-28-2016, 01:48 PM
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(10-28-2016, 12:12 PM)Canard Wrote: We generally know all the factors. You have to make decisions about which ones trump others, what your budgets or constraints allow, and then move forward - often knowing that someone won't be happy with the end result.
What, for example, could designers possibly do at the corner of Queen/Charles? There is literally no practical solution there.
They could have done exactly the same thing that was done at Queen and Duke, square off the corner, as described here:
http://www.tritag.ca/blog/2016/09/19/thi...oo-region/
It is practical to reduce the turning radius (prioritize pedestrians over trucks) on a one of the busiest pedestrian intersections in the city.
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(10-28-2016, 12:00 PM)Canard Wrote: If there's one thing I've learned over my 15 year career as a designer it's that no matter what you do, someone's going to be pissed off at you
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Concrete poured today for the embedded track in uptown waterloo from the HSBC down to the Gospel Light shop. Based on the forms in looks like they will pour down to the Works restaurant by end of day.
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The LRT train signals were on today between Bearinger Road and University.
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Duke and Water has reopened
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